I'm a mile outside of DC. Wife used to work in gov. They are desperately (on the quiet) trying to hire back many of the ppl that doge let go most of whom have either moved onto other jobs or feel so burned that they would never return to gov work. Turns out gov is complicated and getting things done timely. Who knew. Trying to jam round pegs through square holes does not work in that field.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2026 2:08 pm100% c**tJuiceyJones wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2026 8:26 pmIn fairness the word c**t springs to mind whenever i hear his name.
Aside from the fascism (as if that's not enough), the Grok 'nudify' feature that wasn't fussy about age was the final straw. Banned in Europe now but still available in the land of selective freedoms. And then there's the blatant deleting of key govt data, incl scientific, with the DOGE fiasco.
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The trouble is neither the US nor China operate under the same framework, and therefore they are both crushing the EU. Several Asian companies are powering ahead as well.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2026 2:15 pmThat's because the EU operates under a regulatory framework. Like data centres, the North Virginia has 650 and they're incredibly unpopular because of the environmental impact which the EU would never tolerate. We don't want US levels of 'success' because of what's required to achieve it.
It reminds me of the scene that I saw when I worked in Germany, just after reunification. The gap between the former East Germany and West Germany becomes so large. That's what caused the collapse of the Berlin Wall.
You see how certain economies are powering ahead, and others aren't, and then you realise that while it's not the same as East and West Germany. Eventually, the gap will become too big to bridge without a significant shift.
A lot of these fast-growing economies don't really give a shit about EU regulation. They're happy to exploit it.
There has to be a balance somewhere. Europe is not going to grow with the level of regulation that it has.
The US innovates, China replicates, the EU regulates.
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Counties and economies aren't about 'winning', they're about sustainability, standards of living and the welfare of the people. The US and China are both terrible places to live because of the unregulated development. I'd choose to live in one of these 'loser' counties like Norway or the UK over either of them any day. And I think we're past thinking any form of control or socialism means East German standards, unless you're American and still believe in McCarthyism.
We're unlikely to agree though being on polar opposite sides of the political divide. But that's permissible outside of the likes of 'winners' such as China and increasingly, the US.
We're unlikely to agree though being on polar opposite sides of the political divide. But that's permissible outside of the likes of 'winners' such as China and increasingly, the US.
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Eventually people get upset that others have more than them. Whether thats in a country or across the world. It seems to be a universal thing, whatever your political preference. It seems to be human nature.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2026 6:09 pmCounties and economies aren't about 'winning', they're about sustainability, standards of living and the welfare of the people. The US and China are both terrible places to live because of the unregulated development. I'd choose to live in one of these 'loser' counties like Norway or the UK over either of them any day. And I think we're past thinking any form of control or socialism means East German standards, unless you're American and still believe in McCarthyism.
We're unlikely to agree though being on polar opposite sides of the political divide. But that's permissible outside of the likes of 'winners' such as China and increasingly, the US.
