Makerfield By-Election

[tico]

HI All,
According to BF labour are going to win the Makerfield By-election.Presently they are 1.31 with Reform 2nd fav at 4.4 and Restore Britain (back to Victoriana) is 3rd fav at 38.Greens Tories and Libs are out of it.
Burnham is also absolute fav to be next PM,at 1.48 with with the nearest contender being Miliband at 21.
It all seems to be going too smoothly for my liking but with only 4 days left and the establishment not really found anything Juicy about King Burnham it seems that it is a done deal .
The establishment want Farage in (in their wet dreams Restore Britain) but labour with Burnham at the helm could even crack the next election.If he does become PM and carries out his promise not to be a lapdog to the City and the lobbies who control the present government then we will witness one of the most volatile trading markets in political history ,as the establishment(and probably most of his own party) try to get rid of him.Should be interesting.
Regards
Tico

[Euler]

With Restore splitting the vote right of centre, it's almost certainly going to go to Labour.

The problem that Burnham is having is that he's making the same mistake as other politicians. He's promising things he can't possibly deliver with money he doesn't have to get votes he doesn't deserve.

I think it's going to get very messy.

[elofan0]

Unfortunately Labour will probably get in Makersfield but cant see Starmer wanting to budge from PM
No labour for me ,voted Labour all my life as did working men in my dads era .. Not anymore
Voting Reform i do think Restore will swallow some of Reforms votes but voters need to decide on the day
if Restore havent enough votes they need to stick with reform if they dont want Labour in ..

[elofan0]

Recent Political Controversy (2026)In early June 2026, the Greater Manchester Fire and Rescue Service (GMFRS) leadership—under Burnham's governance as Fire Commissioner—emailed staff to caution firefighters who support or represent Reform UK. The leaked email caused significant controversy, with the Free Speech Union writing to Burnham demanding an explanation and warning that the directive created a "chilling effect" on the democratic and free speech rights of firefighters

[tico]

Unfortunately Labour will probably get in Makersfield but cant see Starmer wanting to budge from PM
No labour for me ,voted Labour all my life as did working men in my dads era .. Not anymore
Voting Reform i do think Restore will swallow some of Reforms votes but voters need to decide on the day
if Restore havent enough votes they need to stick with reform if they dont want Labour in ..
Top

Politically nothing to choose between Reform and and Restore ,but it's good that they will contradict each other and lose Farage votes and hopefully the election.
So you have voted labour all of your life,why the jump from a centre right wing party (labour)to a far right wing party(reform).
Tico

[tico]

With Restore splitting the vote right of centre, it's almost certainly going to go to Labour.

The problem that Burnham is having is that he's making the same mistake as other politicians. He's promising things he can't possibly deliver with money he doesn't have to get votes he doesn't deserve.

I think it's going to get very messy.

I disagree ,he can deliver plenty if he has the inclination,and nationalisation of all the utility companies should be top of the list.The money is there to give billions to Ukraine(over 20 billion to date)
Also the degree to which the supe-rich are just filching the country to the tune of 35 million per day into offshore accounts,this seriously needs looking at.The government should also stop other countries shaping our domestic politics and telling us how to run our country.
But has he the inclination? ...as he F'@ck.!!! The minute the weasel cracks the PMship ,he will join the rest of the Arseh0les (Farage Badenoch Starmer)sucking up to the super rich and grovelling to the City and sticking two fingers up to the real wealth creators....us ordinary folk.
Regards
Tico

[jamesedwards]

With Restore splitting the vote right of centre, it's almost certainly going to go to Labour.

The problem that Burnham is having is that he's making the same mistake as other politicians. He's promising things he can't possibly deliver with money he doesn't have to get votes he doesn't deserve.

I think it's going to get very messy.

I disagree ,he can deliver plenty if he has the inclination,and nationalisation of all the utility companies should be top of the list.The money is there to give billions to Ukraine(over 20 billion to date)
Also the degree to which the supe-rich are just filching the country to the tune of 35 million per day into offshore accounts,this seriously needs looking at.The government should also stop other countries shaping our domestic politics and telling us how to run our country.
But has he the inclination? ...as he F'@ck.!!! The minute the weasel cracks the PMship ,he will join the rest of the Arseh0les (Farage Badenoch Starmer)sucking up to the super rich and grovelling to the City and sticking two fingers up to the real wealth creators....us ordinary folk.
Regards
Tico

It's weird to hear so much noise harking back to the 'glory days' of nationalised industries. Yet back in the 70s and 80s nationalised industry inefficiency was a running joke and people longed for them all to be privatised.

As someone with experience of both public and private sector, I can tell you that private sector ownership returns a much greater value to society than public. Perhaps things will be different now, but I very much doubt it.

[elofan0]

Each to their own on the vote , once bitten twice shy

[tico]

It's weird to hear so much noise harking back to the 'glory days' of nationalised industries. Yet back in the 70s and 80s nationalised industry inefficiency was a running joke and people longed for them all to be privatised.

As someone with experience of both public and private sector, I can tell you that private sector ownership returns a much greater value to society than public. Perhaps things will be different now, but I very much doubt it.
Top

Their is little evidence to prove that privatisation of public utilities has been anything more than a disaster. Thatcherism was just organised gangsterism,where the private sector was gifted trillions of pounds worth of public owned assets for next to nothing As one notable politician said of the the whole privatisation process " we are selling our Rolls Royce's for the price of pushbikes"
As for nationalised industries being a running joke back in the 70 and 80s ,that was miles away from the truth ,I should know I lived through it all and only tories wanted to hand over our assets to the sharks.
Regards
Tico

[jamesedwards]

It's weird to hear so much noise harking back to the 'glory days' of nationalised industries. Yet back in the 70s and 80s nationalised industry inefficiency was a running joke and people longed for them all to be privatised.

As someone with experience of both public and private sector, I can tell you that private sector ownership returns a much greater value to society than public. Perhaps things will be different now, but I very much doubt it.
Top

Their is little evidence to prove that privatisation of public utilities has been anything more than a disaster. Thatcherism was just organised gangsterism,where the private sector was gifted trillions of pounds worth of public owned assets for next to nothing As one notable politician said of the the whole privatisation process " we are selling our Rolls Royce's for the price of pushbikes"
As for nationalised industries being a running joke back in the 70 and 80s ,that was miles away from the truth ,I should know I lived through it all and only tories wanted to hand over our assets to the sharks.
Regards
Tico

Perhaps Burnham will bring it all back and then in 20 years we will know.

How are the nationalised railways getting on?
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/ ... _actually/

[xtrader16]

Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to vote Labour in 2026.

[elofan0]

in my years i have seen it all too , the thatchers , the miners all stood strong against her , that was Tory days and Labour were the working mans choice , In the last years since the tories were in power it seems that Labour have continued were the tories left off and continued to make life hard for the working class people in the UK, it is sad that we are now a broken country as we have been a proud nation , not sure any party can undo what damage has been done.. We know things will not change under Labour ,they have had their chance to do better than the Tories , I have lost faith in voting but I will vote Reform because things need to change .. and under Labour it wont ,no ones saying Reform will do better but the choice is my choice ....................