TPD Feedback and Issues
Thanks for the clarification.
My understanding is that the key missing issue with RMG tracks is still the positional data for the jumps, specifically where the obstacles are located on the course.
Without that jump-position data, RMG tracks cannot really be treated in the same way as tracks where the obstacle positions are known, even if the rest of the TPD data is available.
Could you please post an update in this thread once RMG jump-position data becomes available, or if my understanding of the current limitation is no longer correct?
You also mentioned in January: “However, watch this space for further announcements in the next few weeks.” As more than five months have now passed, could you clarify whether those further announcements are still expected, and whether they will be posted here?
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lotora wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:03 pm
You also mentioned in January: “However, watch this space for further announcements in the next few weeks.” As more than five months have now passed, could you clarify whether those further announcements are still expected, and whether they will be posted here?
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Last time I checked the position of obstacles on ATR tracks was unreliable anyway, especially hurdles as they have greater tendency to move position from meeting to meeting.lotora wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:03 pm
My understanding is that the key missing issue with RMG tracks is still the positional data for the jumps, specifically where the obstacles are located on the course.
Without that jump-position data, RMG tracks cannot really be treated in the same way as tracks where the obstacle positions are known, even if the rest of the TPD data is available.
Could you please post an update in this thread once RMG jump-position data becomes available, or if my understanding of the current limitation is no longer correct?
Thanks, James, that’s useful to know.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:44 pmLast time I checked the position of obstacles on ATR tracks was unreliable anyway, especially hurdles as they have greater tendency to move position from meeting to meeting.lotora wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:03 pm
My understanding is that the key missing issue with RMG tracks is still the positional data for the jumps, specifically where the obstacles are located on the course.
Without that jump-position data, RMG tracks cannot really be treated in the same way as tracks where the obstacle positions are known, even if the rest of the TPD data is available.
Could you please post an update in this thread once RMG jump-position data becomes available, or if my understanding of the current limitation is no longer correct?
It will be interesting to see how things develop with RMG data going forward.
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I am using the RMG data on almost all tracks. But I am still operating a lower exposure limit for now.lotora wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:54 pmThanks James, that’s useful, updated information.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:44 pmLast time I checked the position of obstacles on ATR tracks was unreliable anyway, especially hurdles as they have greater tendency to move position from meeting to meeting.lotora wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:03 pm
My understanding is that the key missing issue with RMG tracks is still the positional data for the jumps, specifically where the obstacles are located on the course.
Without that jump-position data, RMG tracks cannot really be treated in the same way as tracks where the obstacle positions are known, even if the rest of the TPD data is available.
Could you please post an update in this thread once RMG jump-position data becomes available, or if my understanding of the current limitation is no longer correct?
It will be interested to see how things develop with RMG data going forward.
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I just checked and today's hurdles at Uttoxeter are not correct.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:44 pmLast time I checked the position of obstacles on ATR tracks was unreliable anyway, especially hurdles as they have greater tendency to move position from meeting to meeting.lotora wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:03 pm
My understanding is that the key missing issue with RMG tracks is still the positional data for the jumps, specifically where the obstacles are located on the course.
Without that jump-position data, RMG tracks cannot really be treated in the same way as tracks where the obstacle positions are known, even if the rest of the TPD data is available.
Could you please post an update in this thread once RMG jump-position data becomes available, or if my understanding of the current limitation is no longer correct?
Aha, so this can occasionally affect the Gmax/ARC side of the TPD data as well. Maybe that is another reason not to rely too heavily on jump-position data in automation anyway.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 3:04 pmI just checked and today's hurdles at Uttoxeter are not correct.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:44 pmLast time I checked the position of obstacles on ATR tracks was unreliable anyway, especially hurdles as they have greater tendency to move position from meeting to meeting.lotora wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:03 pm
My understanding is that the key missing issue with RMG tracks is still the positional data for the jumps, specifically where the obstacles are located on the course.
Without that jump-position data, RMG tracks cannot really be treated in the same way as tracks where the obstacle positions are known, even if the rest of the TPD data is available.
Could you please post an update in this thread once RMG jump-position data becomes available, or if my understanding of the current limitation is no longer correct?
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Absolutely.lotora wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 3:18 pmAha, so this can occasionally affect the Gmax/ARC side of the TPD data as well. Maybe that is another reason not to rely too heavily on jump-position data in automation anyway.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 3:04 pmI just checked and today's hurdles at Uttoxeter are not correct.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 2:44 pm
Last time I checked the position of obstacles on ATR tracks was unreliable anyway, especially hurdles as they have greater tendency to move position from meeting to meeting.
Many courses change the position of hurdles every couple of meetings and I don't think the TPD Gmax data gets updated. Fences are more likely to remain in situ, but some courses change these occasionally too.
I wouldn't use this data currently.
