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Consty1
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Euler wrote:Good one that, massive Curley steamer wins shock!
120109 - Curley runner - Steamer - Sommersturm.png
Is there a specific reason why this movement happened or is that a secret? :)
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CaerMyrddin
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I was going to post Barney's history, but wikipedia is down. Google him, he has some of the most interesting gambles ever.
andyfuller
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Euler wrote:Did you notice there was a £4 order on Sommersturm at 1.01 in the early market.
Happens a lot of the time these days on most runners. There was a thread about it a while back. Can be quite annoying whoever is doing it.
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Euler
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14:30 Kempton - Allanit
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Euler
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I'll be stuck in a meeting at 14:30 so if anybody can capture the chart and post it up, would be much appreciated!
hgodden
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I missed getting a screen as I was trading IP but if it's any help it started around about 5s very early on (with little matched) and rose to about 20s 10 mintues before the off and oscillated between 20 and 30 in the final few minutes before the off. Traded much lower in play (front runner going well)
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Euler
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Many thanks.
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15:20 Lingfield - Hearduthefirsttime
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Euler
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Drfited from 16's to 600's
Iron
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Hi Dobbin

Interesting articles, thanks.

I've never been quite clear why Mr Curley dislikes the bookmakers. Why does he feel they've damaged racing?

Jeff
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Dobbin
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Hi Ferru

Basically because the bookies make the rules up as they go along. a Bit like Betfair does now.

Betfred refuse to pay out on Curley coup bets
By David Ashforth 11:43AM 6 JUN 2011

BETFRED.COM, based in Gibraltar, will not pay out on the bets placed by Barney Curley’s relatives aspart of the Newmarket trainer’s £4 million coup last May.

This comes despite the fact that Betfred’s UK betting shops have paid out and that, following an investigation, the BHA concluded that no rules ofracing had been breached. Betfred, who on Friday were declared the new owners of the Tote, declined to comment, stating: “It is with our lawyers.”
Barney Curley

Barney Curley: masterminded a four-horse betting coup
PICTURE: Edward Whitaker

On June 1, Betfred.com’s lawyers informed the five account holders, four of whom are related to Curley, that bets showing a profit of more than £823,000 would be voided under the company’s rule 10, which states: “Any person or group of persons acting in an attempt to defraud Betfred.com will have their bets voided.”

The decision followed a letter dated May 27 from the Gibraltar Regulatory Authority which accused Curley of deception, the account holders of fraud, and the BHA of misapplying its own rules.

Andrew Montague, a Northern Ireland-based solicitor acting for the claimants, said: “We have already instructed our Gibraltar agents, Triay & Triay lawyers, to proceed with an application to the Supreme Court of Gibraltar for a judicial review of the GRA’s handling of the case, which has been inter alia, ultra vires, unlawful, irrational and procedurally and substantively unfair.

“The investigation by the GRA is flawed and has been conducted from the outset in a biased way and has chosen to ignore the findings of both the BHA and Ibas[Independent Betting Adjudication Service].”

The case, which has soured relations between the BHA and GRA, has wider ramifications because it demonstrates that UK-based punters betting with offshore bookmakers may find their bets are treated differently.
Iron
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Interesting that both Betfred and Betfair are registered in Gibraltar.

Maybe I'm just getting cynical in my old age, but I have to wonder if the GRA are believers in light touch regulation...

Jeff
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Hi all!

Just seen on the RP that Betfred have finally agreed to payout on the Barney Curley coup from 2010!

The articles are in the RP http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-ra ... 90396/top/ and the Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... -coup.html
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Euler
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Missed this but a Curley runner in the 14:00. Running loose at the moment!
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