Eurozone debt crisis

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andyfuller
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I got it slightly wrong, they aim to pay most people in 7 days and all will be paid out in 20 days.

My sister had to use the scheme when the Icelandic banks went belly up a few years ago and it was amazingly efficient. They contacted her rather than her having to contact them. She got her money back in a matter of days with the interest that she would have missed out on included! So I really have no worries.

One thing to be very careful of though is that it is per institution not per bank!

As for debts:
Martin Lewis wrote:If you have debts, such as a mortgage, loan or credit card with a bank that you also have savings with, these two things will be treated separately. This means that, if the bank went bust, you'd receive compensation for your savings from the FSCS, and still owe the bank the full amount of your debts.

This system changed in January 2011; previously your savings were subtracted from debts automatically. The new arrangement gives you the cash to do whatever you would like with; you aren't forced to pay off debts that you wouldn't have under normal circumstances.

If you have savings in one institution which come to more than the FSCS limit of £85,000, then anything over that are likely to be automatically deducted from your debts when administrators come into the bank - another good reason to adhere to the limits.
The full guide can be read here: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/safe-savings
hgodden
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Damn shame, was considering taking a sudden mortgage out for the first time in my life ;)
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CaerMyrddin
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What would happen if you had a mortgage or credit card debt with a bank that went under?
Your debt would probably be bought as a credit by another institution, so no free dinner there!
Iron
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The euro has hit a 22 month low against the dollar, and equities around the globe are tumbling! :o

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Greeks facing 'payback time' for tax-dodging, IMF chief Christine Lagarde says - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/fina ... -says.html

The anti-austerity parties in Greece are probably drinking a toast to Madame Lagarde...

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Eurozone crisis: Merkel should not be 'singled out' says Cameron - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18343164

Hmmm... You don't suppose this is a prelude to Britain contributing money to a Eurozone bailout, do you? :evil:

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Euler
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Dublin Airport this morning.

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Spanish banks to get up to 100bn euros in rescue loans - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18382659

'Mr de Guindos said there would be conditions attached for the banks receiving the loans, but there would not be "micro-economic conditions" for Spain.'

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No decision had been made on exactly who would disburse the funds, Mr de Guindos said, but he suggested this would be one of the European rescue funds, the EFSF or the ESM.'


On first reading, this sounds to me suspiciously like a taxpayer funded bailout, with no belt-tightening conditions attached, and precious little in the way of collateral...

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Another interesting peice, basically saying how we have learnt nothing from the great depression.

http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/8082
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The Genius of Mutual Indebtedness - Nigel Farage http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... N_1mF-3JTI

You laugh or you cry...

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to75ne
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jeff,

i don't understand much in this bit of the forum (financial markets), its just bizarre. it really is alice in woderland on acid.

i think that is the first video/post i have seen in this section that makes any sense to me. its farcical.

i am not a ukip fan but old nigel is the first person i have heard who seems to make sense of this euro cock up to me. this cant be true, its stupid, really stupid. madness.

could you or someone explain to me why economics is considered to be a science instead of astrlology, mumbo jumbo, fortune telling?
Iron
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Hi Tony

IMHO, economics is a bit like the social sciences. It uses empirical research, but academics have the freedom to interpret the evidence subjectively, hailing research that supports their theories and picking holes in the research that casts doubt on said theories. Maybe I'm just getting cynical in my old age! :lol:

Let's put it this way. I was watching Nobel prize winning economist Paul Krugman on Newsnight the other day, and he was advocating government spending as a way out of this crisis. I'm sure Professor Krugman is one of the world's leading economists, and an extremely intelligent guy, but I do wonder whether he was putting the cart before the horse (perhaps unconsciously), assembling a set of fancy theories
that supported what he wanted to believe. I think this is a case where Occam's Razor applies (ie the simplest theory is usually the best, and going on a spending spree when you've maxed out on your credit card probably isn't a good idea!). :lol:

Jeff
to75ne wrote: could you or someone explain to me why economics is considered to be a science instead of astrlology, mumbo jumbo, fortune telling?
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Krugman is a c0ck who always advocates the same cheap credit/spending solution to every economic problem.

that he got a Nobel prize is a big a joke as Fred Goodwin and Mervyn King getting a knighthoods for services to banking.
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superfrank
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a week ago we were being told that a bailout for Spanish banks was not necessary - since then we've had a €100Bn bailout for Spanish banks and are on the verge of a bailout for the Spanish government. it will obviously be denied for while but it's ultimately inevitable - they are as broke as Greece and it's only an extend and pretend policy that has got them this far.

property bubbles are always unsustainable and always burst.
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