Royal Ascot 2012

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andyfuller
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A good example in the last race of just one of the runners, 82% of all the money on the horse traded within 3 ticks. Within 5 ticks and you account for a little over 93%!
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steven1976
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Ive been saying for months the front of the markets are controlled very short term. I believe their is a lot of self matching to manipulate the markets. are you seeing the same thing, or is it just someone using big money stacked up on one side and then dropping it the other way once they are out of their position or something else?
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mugsgame
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If you have the guardian window open it shows matched bets and outstanding bets.
I had a 10k laybet on Frankel, it took 404 bets to get it matched, that is 404 back bets @1.14 for an average of £24 per match.

Big players? Yeah right

Talking of Frankel, timeform have given him a rating of 147. The highest ever rating in their history. Awesome.
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superfrank
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mugsgame wrote:If you have the guardian window open it shows matched bets and outstanding bets.
I had a 10k laybet on Frankel, it took 404 bets to get it matched, that is 404 back bets @1.14 for an average of £24 per match.

Big players? Yeah right

Talking of Frankel, timeform have given him a rating of 147. The highest ever rating in their history. Awesome.
can't that kind of data be skewed by the xm algorithm?
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mugsgame
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Dunno Frank
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Euler
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On larger fields xm almost never kicks in.
blueport
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I had my first real crack at the English markets last night. Very frustrating experience.

I turned over a considerable amount of money and had nothing to show for it.

I've never experienced anything like frankels race as far as volumes are concerned.
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mugsgame
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Ah Frankel............

Officially THE best horse in the world.....ever

BC who are you?





Soory 'bout that. Love winding up the Aussies :D
Gotta admit he was awesome.
Zenyatta
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Boy, the outsiders have really been coming in at Royal Ascot :|
andyfuller
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One good thing about the Bbc losing the racing from next year is no more jim McGrath. Yet another woeful commentary for the week from him in the first race today.
chuck536
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not so manipulated today going off the first by the looks of things, bomber was about last night aswell so a minor worry for today
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Euler
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Did you see that massive manipulation on the Gold Cup. Saddlers rock had 2/3 times as much money on it than the favourite. I enjoyed that battle!
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Euler
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hgodden
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Manipulation on Sadlers Rock? I was on that one and I thought it was just pretty even. Do you mean someone was holding the price artificially?

It's interesting that that is the kind of thing you see as manipulation as when I talk about manipulation I'm talking about very different behaviour from that!
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Euler
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I can spot it fairly quickly because I can read what they are doing. It's easy to see anyway as the volume of unmatched bets is way beyond what should be there.
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