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Zenyatta
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There's no fixed automation rules that will gaurantee you a profit.

There are semi-automated systems that work, but they require some knowledge of horse racing to pick the right selections and fit the right strategies to the right races. No one is going to hand over this knowledge to you COI.
COISABONIS
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Thanks for all good friends that understand my view point. I'm not talking about human trading, but about simple bot trading.
I just want discuss this point because, me to, I think too that no exist rigid automation rules that works for all kind of horse races, soccer, tennis, etc, etc. With a bot you can stay green 1 or 2 days, but next 5 or 6, the big red will come to our account.
As I have right to pay and have acess to BETANGEL software, I also have right to acess to those "miracle rules"... but at end, doesn't exist for anyone. Nothing is perfect.
For moments I thought que was really true. So, the work is more hard than people think....

SUGGESTIONS FOR BETANGEL SOFTWARE:

1. Why events for Guardian dont have date column, i.e., 25.10.2012?
2. There's any possibility to make ducthing at the same time for over & under goals 0.5 - 1.5 - 2.5 or 3.5 single markets, for example?
switesh
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Is this easy to do/learn/pull off for a new guy?
Speaking from my own experience - NO. Some people will agree that you need to put in an enormous amount of screen hours and have solid Dedication and Passion if you ever want to succeed at Trading.

Again, from my own experience I can safely say that Dedication, Passion and xxxxxx amount of screen hours ISN'T enough either. It's only the beginning.

To quote George Lucas -
“There are a lot of times when you sit and you say ‘Why am I doing this? I'll never make it. It’s just not going to happen. I should go out and get a real job and try to survive’.”

One last suggestion - if like myself you're going to put in enormous amounts of screen hours practising and reviewing then please kindly book yourself an optometrist as well. Your eyes will hurt awful bad day in day out. Not to mention that if you have a day job as well then you won't get much sleep either.

Regards,
Switesh
Alpha322
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COISABONIS wrote:Friend, this is not a joke. If automation rules are 100% winners for 5-10%, I dont mind.

Musgrame, or Musgame... whatever? Why I dont have place on this forum? LOL. I think you are confused about my intentions. I just want rules because sofwtare I already pay... if rules are winners for what I want, I pay during 6 or 12 months and no discussion about that.
If you want call me, face to face... e-mail-me and i will give you my phone. No problem. I dont hide behind nicknames.

Regards
I have 3 excellent football guardian files and one horse racing one, but i wouldnt share it with you for any type of percentage of bots you know why because there is 3 years of hard graft, research, late nights, big losses, creating a mindset to sucseed, and am sure the others like MG have seen all this though their journeys, and you want people to hand it over because you cant be bothered, i know its not a joke but its not a joke giving away personal information that was worked hard for
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mugsgame
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Think there may be some cross language / cultural confusion here. I want to clear this up so i will use words that we can all understand (I hope). Let me explain.........
COISABONIS wrote:As I have right to pay and have acess to BETANGEL software, I also have right to acess to those "miracle rules"... but at end, doesn't exist for anyone. Nothing is perfect.
If you go into a hardware store and buy a shovel, you get a shovel. Not a team of experts who come with shovels to dig the hole for you while you watch.

Are we clear about this? :D
COISABONIS
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Hi Mugsgame,

For soccer and tennis, for example, no need rules files automation because all depends of good selections about what you want. We all agree about that.
My doubt was about race horses and my conclusion is there's are no rules workable for all races.
Dont worry, I'm not asking you to share with me or someone else. I dont want it... :)
Mugsgame, you think that you have a treasure in your hands? I reminder your that the software is from Betangel and programmers team of Betangel have access to any files creted by you or me...
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mugsgame
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Your really missing the point

For the record I don't use automation very often.
And I am confident that your remark about "Bet Angel having access to files created by you or me" are simply not true.
COISABONIS
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It's like not believing in witches. We believe they do not have access! And no doubt that is a fantastic software. But do you really think that what we do is under wraps? For the record, is a "shareware" through which it can monitor all customer activities.
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Euler
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COISABONIS wrote:It's like not believing in witches. We believe they do not have access! And no doubt that is a fantastic software. But do you really think that what we do is under wraps? For the record, is a "shareware" through which it can monitor all customer activities.
Excuse me! Never heard so much complete and utter tosh in my life. It's a condition of our agreement with Betfair that we don't actually know anything about what any of our users are doing. We have no way of collecting data on usage and have no intention of doing so. Betfair check this before they allow us to publish the software.

I'm afraid you are on a completely different planet. Though I think people have figured that out for themselves already.

Check your facts next time, before you accuse anybody of anything.
NR169
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Well said indeed.

This has been an idiotic thread
COISABONIS
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You can say anything, but I DONT BELIEVE. And what? Because of that I must not talk this subject? LOL. Dont be foolish!...
So, if you are right and if this is not a "SHAREWARE", like you say, why we pay monthly this subscription and why we just dont pay the upgrade?
Why there are always people call us idiots when we talk about matters that want avoid? Think a little, friend... dont eat everything!
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