Guardian Automation; -Add rule type "Manual instruction req"

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OnGoldWires
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Hi,

I mostly trade through Guardian Automation, and most of what I do can be done automatically. However, some markets are better traded manually and some not at all. So, I thought it would be nice to have some flexibility to choose whether to trade automatically, semi-automatically or manually.

What I suggest is a rule which would create a half-way house between manual and automatic trading. For example we might want to trade any market above a certain volume with the right overrounds and, more importantly, we might want to avoid trading in certain markets in which certain conditions are not met. Inevitably there is a grey area in which a judgement call needs to be made. In those circumstances it would be nice for Automation to seek manual confirmation of a trade from the user. It could switch to "local safe" mode for that market and maybe send an audio alert to indicate that user input is required for the market. If a market is in local safe mode and the user is away or does not respond, the market is not traded (or a position closed), otherwise the user response could enable to bet to go ahead; close the trade; and keep or clear the "local safe" mode.

I suggest this could be implemented by adding a rule type.
6thSense
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This sounds like you are after a new condition rather than a rule type.

But adding fuzzy logic like this could be a minefield. You are basically asking the computer to make the judgement call for you then alert you to be sure that it has made the correct judgement call? Computers are better left to plain old 'TRUE/FALSE' type calls. 'MAYBE' is notoriously difficult for a computer to understand.

I expect you could get close to what you want in Excel. Whenever there is something that can't be done in Guardian automation then it is usually possible in Excel.
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OnGoldWires
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You are basically asking the computer to make the judgement call for you then alert you to be sure that it has made the correct judgement call?
I have not explained myself well, because I mean the exact opposite. I want to ask the computer to use specific rules to determine whether a judgement call needs to be made by the user.

I will give you an example. I want to place a back bet on a team if they are playing at home and their odds are more than 4. But I don't want to place a bet in a market with low volume or a large "back book %". So I have a bet rule with conditions "Volume>10000" and "Back Book % <102". However, my "system" is in development and I might want to try my hand in markets in which the Volume is >5000 and/or the Back Book % is around 103. So I have a rule which would run just after the back rule finished but did not fire, with conditions "Volume is >5000 " and "Back Book % <105". This will fire to inform me that conditions for a bet have not been met, but they are close to being met.

At the moment and for the forseeable future, I trade semi-Automatically. I have my Automation running, but I don't leave it running when I am out and I check how my bets are running from time to time. Occasionally, I find that I miss a market because the back odds were at 3.95, or the Volume or book% were marginal and sometimes, because I have plenty of other bets in the market that is OK, but occasionally I would have liked to have gone into the market and all I would have needed would have an audible warning to inform me that conditions are marginal. I would then come and had a look and maybe placed a manual bet. It doesn't actually have to be anything more than a user prompt - forget the fancy local safe mode idea.

The idea is to introduce flexibility, If I find that I am generally trading successfully in markets with volume >5000, but < 10000, I would consider changing my bet conditions and over time improve my rules file.
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