Hi,
I would like to do the following automatically :
1) Lay all runners at x before the off ( well below market prices so nothing will be matched before the off ) and keep all unmatched in place when the market goes in running.
2) As soon as 1 bet is matched , apply offset and greening x ticks above the matched price but most importantly as soon as the 1st bet is matched cancel all other unmatched bets immediately but still have the offset and greening in place on the matched bet.
Is this easy to automate , hard , not possible ? Any guidance would be much appreciated.
Lay All - Horses
There are some things you need to understand regarding offsetting and automation.
1 - If you set 'x' seconds before the off and only want them to match in-running then any automatic offsetting will not be carried over. Get around this by placing the bets as soon as possible AFTER the start of the event
2 - As soon as one bet is matched then you could set a condition to cancel all bets if the overall profit is less or greater than zero (implying a bet has been matched). However, there is a risk that other bets will get matched before this cancel instruction can fire as any automation will be a few milliseconds behind what is happening at the exchange.
But if you are happy to proceed knowing all the above then I would say it should be quite straightforward to automate.
1 - If you set 'x' seconds before the off and only want them to match in-running then any automatic offsetting will not be carried over. Get around this by placing the bets as soon as possible AFTER the start of the event
2 - As soon as one bet is matched then you could set a condition to cancel all bets if the overall profit is less or greater than zero (implying a bet has been matched). However, there is a risk that other bets will get matched before this cancel instruction can fire as any automation will be a few milliseconds behind what is happening at the exchange.
But if you are happy to proceed knowing all the above then I would say it should be quite straightforward to automate.
Thank you 6th Sense. I'll give it a go for very small stakes and see how i go.
Just one more question. If i apply the conditon " cancel all bets if the overall profit is less or greater than zero " will this cancel all my unmatched lay bets BEFORE the offset back bet is in place ? because if not then will it not cancel that as well ?
Just one more question. If i apply the conditon " cancel all bets if the overall profit is less or greater than zero " will this cancel all my unmatched lay bets BEFORE the offset back bet is in place ? because if not then will it not cancel that as well ?
I have created a new rule in guardian and when i get to the conditions tab there is only a small selection to choose from and none of them are the condition you suggested. I'm obviously not looking in the right place. Please could you point me in the right direction
Many Thanks
Many Thanks
It's not as straight forward as it first appears is it!
The problem is using offsetting. As you have discovered now you've run through the steps is that the offset bet will be cancelled.
So don't use offsetting. Use a cancel all rule then apply a 'Green All Selections' after this.
What price are you initially laying the field at?
The problem is using offsetting. As you have discovered now you've run through the steps is that the offset bet will be cancelled.
So don't use offsetting. Use a cancel all rule then apply a 'Green All Selections' after this.
What price are you initially laying the field at?
i think i get what you are saying. 3 rules :
1) Lay all at " x " with no offsetting
2) Cancel all unmatched when profit is less or greater than zero which will effectively cancel all other bets when the first one is matched
3) green all when profit is greater than £x
Is that right ?
Can i then apply all 3 rules to the same market ?
1) Lay all at " x " with no offsetting
2) Cancel all unmatched when profit is less or greater than zero which will effectively cancel all other bets when the first one is matched
3) green all when profit is greater than £x
Is that right ?
Can i then apply all 3 rules to the same market ?
Try the attatched automation baf file. Use import rules file to get it into Guardian.
The rules file contains 4 rules:
1 - Lay all selections. Price asked for: 1.5, Stake £10. Rule active from 0 seconds to 10 seconds after start. Fire once.
2 - Cancel all unmatched bets. Condition - 'Green All Profit Condition' less than zero
3 - Cancel all unmatched bets. Condition - 'Green All Profit Condition' greater than zero
4 - Green All Selections. Conditions - Time since unmatched bet greater than zero. Green All Profit Condition greater than zero.
Rules 2 - 4 active 10 seconds after event is turned in play to 10 mins. Adjust for the event you are betting in.
I've set the lay price trigger to 1.5 and the stake used to £10. You can change these to suit.
Use with caution as I have not tested extensively. But I think this is close to what you are after.
The rules file contains 4 rules:
1 - Lay all selections. Price asked for: 1.5, Stake £10. Rule active from 0 seconds to 10 seconds after start. Fire once.
2 - Cancel all unmatched bets. Condition - 'Green All Profit Condition' less than zero
3 - Cancel all unmatched bets. Condition - 'Green All Profit Condition' greater than zero
4 - Green All Selections. Conditions - Time since unmatched bet greater than zero. Green All Profit Condition greater than zero.
Rules 2 - 4 active 10 seconds after event is turned in play to 10 mins. Adjust for the event you are betting in.
I've set the lay price trigger to 1.5 and the stake used to £10. You can change these to suit.
Use with caution as I have not tested extensively. But I think this is close to what you are after.
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This is a Bet Angel Automation File. You can't open it directly.
You need to import it into Bet Angel Guardian.
See here - http://www.betangel.com/user-guide/guar ... ation.html
You need to import it into Bet Angel Guardian.
See here - http://www.betangel.com/user-guide/guar ... ation.html
Brilliant ! this is exactly what i was after. I almost had it myself but not quite. I can now learn from the file you created to create more rules myself.
I tweaked it from the defaults you provided and put it into play in the Kempton 21.15.
It was a thing of beauty !
The lay the field activated as soon as the market went in play , as soon as one bet was matched all the others dissapeared , and on this occassion the runner i got matched on immediately reversed in price and i greened up 2 seconds after that at the green value i specified.
Thats it - I'm rich !
Well maybe not just yet. At least this now allows me do do some decent testing without sitting around all day pressing buttons
Not sure of your association with Betangel 6th sense but it was very kind of you to go out of your way to help me in this manner and it is very much appreciated - Thank you
I tweaked it from the defaults you provided and put it into play in the Kempton 21.15.
It was a thing of beauty !
The lay the field activated as soon as the market went in play , as soon as one bet was matched all the others dissapeared , and on this occassion the runner i got matched on immediately reversed in price and i greened up 2 seconds after that at the green value i specified.
Thats it - I'm rich !
Well maybe not just yet. At least this now allows me do do some decent testing without sitting around all day pressing buttons
Not sure of your association with Betangel 6th sense but it was very kind of you to go out of your way to help me in this manner and it is very much appreciated - Thank you
Gents,
Good Bot, when it works it is very, very good but when it does not it is a shocker.
The problem I have is with Greening Up which only kicks in on a random basis.
Consequently most lays end up in the red so it becomes impossible to keep in the black.
Sometimes Green Up kicks in but most of the time it does not even when there is plenty of time and scope for it to do so.
This applies to both GB and AUST markets irrespective of what Lay All price is set.
Is there a glitch in Bet Angel Guardian or can I add another rule to ensure Greening up kicks in?
Your valued comments will be most welcome.
RegL
Good Bot, when it works it is very, very good but when it does not it is a shocker.
The problem I have is with Greening Up which only kicks in on a random basis.
Consequently most lays end up in the red so it becomes impossible to keep in the black.
Sometimes Green Up kicks in but most of the time it does not even when there is plenty of time and scope for it to do so.
This applies to both GB and AUST markets irrespective of what Lay All price is set.
Is there a glitch in Bet Angel Guardian or can I add another rule to ensure Greening up kicks in?
Your valued comments will be most welcome.
RegL