Mental Bomber

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andyfuller
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fuzzer54 wrote:With Betfair you're taking money off other traders or punters. Betfair continues to make a profit however much you win.
As long as you don't withdraw that money or stop circulating it through the exchange it doesn't cost Betfair anything in simple terms. But when that money is withdrawn or stops circulating through the exchange Betfair have to spend money replacing it by attracting new customers, for example they have to pay for TV adverts.

They say at 20% PC they break even on those PC people. They then decided that that wasn't good enough and they wanted all customers to be profitable for them so they introduced higher PC.

One issue is that they have seemingly not added imo much other value to these PC payers. For example, I offered liquidity up to the exchange. Now my money is no longer offered up to the exchange as I am no longer a customer. Take me as an individual case and it doesn't make a huge amount of difference but add up all the people who the PC effects and over time there is likely to be a shift in the way in which Betfair has worked. Betfair have decided that any negative impact of the PC does not outweigh the financial benefit that the PC has/will brought for them.

Time will tell but it won't necessarily be easy to tell for you and I as of course many other factors will be changing at the same time so it will be very difficult to pin point the impact of the PC chages. Betfair with access to a lot more data should be in a better situation to establish the outcome. But it is likely to be a slow and subtle change over quite easily several years.
giulio2010
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Please Bomber come back....When the Bomber is on there is opposition, when the layers are on, they find no opposition and it's really hard to close your negative trade quickly
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giulio2010
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Where are you BOMBER?....please come back...Layers seems to find little opposition without the Bomber around..
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mcfc1981
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please tell me i didnt miss bomber while on holiday :cry:
giulio2010
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I was waiting the bomber to come back but the one that showed off at Plumpton 12.50 is actually a clever Bomber...He pushed the price on both direction on the favorite..if I m not wrong he/she may have made some good money by doing that....
giulio2010
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I am back from holiday after 4 weeks, it's my 1st day of trading and I can see with much appreciation that the mad bomber may be on today!!! ;) ;)
giulio2010
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The big bomber ( the one that we always talked about) it's defenately on today and guess what guys? England playing a friendly tonight!!!!
Last time I have seen him bombing this way was when England played and for the poland game he did 2 days in the row!!!
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mcfc1981
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dont think its bomber myself, he didnt get it matched
hgodden
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He doesnt always get matched fully, assuming it is the same guy... but in any case these big wads dont always get matched even if the intention is to get it all matched, the behaviour isn't always so predictable
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Euler
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Just got tripped up on the 15:50 at Ludlow
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Kemp 19:35
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freddy
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giulio2010 wrote:The big bomber ( the one that we always talked about) it's defenately on today and guess what guys? England playing a friendly tonight!!!!
Last time I have seen him bombing this way was when England played and for the poland game he did 2 days in the row!!!
freddy wrote: Postby freddy » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:41 pm
Maybe it's a bored England Player, it's stopped since the games started :lol:
Your not the only one that's noticed this ;)

It makes sense that it happen for two days in a row with the Poland game, as the game was called off with the torrential rain and rearanged for the next day.

so two days of bored England footballers :D
giulio2010
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freddy wrote:freddy wrote:Postby freddy » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:41 pm
Maybe it's a bored England Player, it's stopped since the games started :lol:
or a footballer wife!!! :lol: :lol:
giulio2010
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Thank you...saved my day by far.. :D
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L.o.S
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Something that's worked for me with the bomber: if I get caught cut the loss, then watch as nobody wants to lay so the price moves in, then the bomber drags down again, lay at that point and price moves back to normal, and you end up even or up. Quite frustrating at times but this is how I've minimized bomber damage.
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