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Euler
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From a trading perspective I like multi day high quality meetings. They usually throw up some good opportunities and are a welcome addition to the month.

As you may know these higher quality meetings produce extra volume and that can change the characteristics significantly. But don’t let Goodwood or anybody else fool you into thinking it’s the same as a Royal Ascot or Cheltenham, it behaves very differently. Goodwood benefits from decent volume but it’s not as much as some major meetings. Therefore it can be a little tricky at times to get exactly right. Goodwood is much better than the normal day to day fodder you are used to, but not quite on the same scale as other major meetings. Last year, at post time, it turned over around 40% on average of a typical Ascot race.

I’ve often had mixed results at Goodwood, so Tuesday is my day for ‘feeling’ the market and testing its boundaries. Day one is has some very competitive handicaps, so those should be an interesting base to work form on day one. There will be a variety of markets in the mix so half decent stakes and care will be my hallmarks for the day.
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Euler
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Day one and two have been pretty soft for me.

Current the stats are saying that it's taking about twice as long as a normal market to fill an order but there is a lot more movement around this year.
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Does Jolly have any tips for us today? I'm thinking of taking a big punt or two.
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Euler
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JG hasn't been that well so far this year unfortunately. Has been on hols recently, not sure if he is back yet.
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Euler
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Here are some stats for you.

Back orders are filling faster than Lay orders so far at Goodwood. Average queue size is about double the normal markets but the fill rate per second is about the same, so it's taking about twice as long as normal for an order to fill at Goodwood.
Zenyatta
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The right horse won the cup - an old favourite of mine, Owen's 'Brown Panther', has mauled them. I had a big old fashioned back punt on him, got a big payout. Returning to Betangel to give trading another crack soon :D
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Euler
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Currently on target to earn more from Betdaq this week than Betfair.
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jimrobo
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betfair has been pretty awful for me today. Strange market/price action for me.
steven1976
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Isn't it every day?

I was involved in a horse earlier in the day and it was backed in from about 2.4s to 1.8s. I kept going at it like a maniac and 20 seconds from the off the money on the back side 3 ticks behind the current price completely disappeared to zero pre off. I had the same last night on an Irish race where at the start time there was 40k matched. I got involved at 7s at the start time (short delay) and it immediately started going against me. I was scratching and handled it okay but after the official off time there had been 35k more matched asit steamed into 5.7s. I got it on vid actually. There feels so little real money in anything that I'm giving it a miss once the footy season starts. I only do it for fun but the funs going when it feels like every single penny you enter into the market can turn a price.

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jimrobo
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tues/weds were actually ok for me. Today it has been awful. Really awful!
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Euler
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Core problem on Betfair is that nobody is taking my orders.
steven1976
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Small traders complain the market always moves against them short term and large players complain they can't get filled and the market moves away from them and yet there is always the pretty much the same amounts being matched race to race. I think that tells a story in itself.
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I just read your comments again Peter, and I'm not trying to be picky but why do you say the core problem is no one is taking "your" orders? I presume it was just a generalisation but just interested as to why you would say that.
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Euler
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Fill rate is the core problem. I monitor every aspect of every market and monitor how long it takes for an order to fill and they are not filling fast enough, or even filling. I've lowered stakes and that isn't improving things.
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