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marko236
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Hi,

Do you guys think trading will ever be taxed?

And for anyone making money doing it, would you be angry if you had to pay taxes or do you think it would be fair to get taxed?
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kelpie
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The more succesful traders there are the more the government will tax them.

Inevitable.

Right now, the only reason trading is untaxed is because few are profiting.
marko236
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kelpie wrote:The more succesful traders there are the more the government will tax them.

Inevitable.

Right now, the only reason trading is untaxed is because few are profiting.
So Kelpie do you think a large number of ordinary people like us are going to start trading, or is companys like bookmakers, banks etc going to start investing money in sport trading?
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Euler
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It's to do with double taxtion. Betfair charge (rather ludicrous) amounts which they then pay tax to HRMC. Overall customers lose so to only tax those that win doesn't work, else those that lose would get tax relief. Tax relief on gambling losses would be an interesting side side effect on the attempt to tax gamblers.
marko236
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Euler wrote:It's to do with double taxtion. Betfair charge (rather ludicrous) amounts which they then pay tax to HRMC. Overall customers lose so to only tax those that win doesn't work, else those that lose would get tax relief. Tax relief on gambling losses would be an interesting side side effect on the attempt to tax gamblers.
So your saying it wouldn't be worth while for the HRMC to tax trading, i.e they wouldn't make any income?
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kelpie
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marko236 wrote:So Kelpie do you think a large number of ordinary people like us are going to start trading, or is companys like bookmakers, banks etc going to start investing money in sport trading?
There are already funds that trade sports markets.

However, I doubt they deliver p&l above industry.

Markets logically and frustratingly restrict profits to the few and inflict losses on the majority. Sports funds aint different.
Kz1888
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If someone was using another persons betfair account (or any other bookmaker account for that matter) to avoid premium charge etc I wonder if that person would possibly become liable for tax, or if it would have no impact on his tax position?
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