whats happening in these horse racing markets! My thoughts!

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PeterLe
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Ferru123 wrote:It's possible that the enemy is Betfair itself, in which case you're already 100% transparent (unless their code of ethics stops them from observing what their clients are doing).

Here's a theory.

Maybe the reason that Betfair introduced the 60% PC is because they had been modelling the activities of the people the charge applied to, and knew they could step into their shoes if need be. Maybe what we're up against is a Betfair-operated bot that mimics the activities of the most successful human traders (but without being burdened by commission).

Jeff
jimrobo wrote:As there is less money going forward your positions are going to become more transparent and easier to manipulate.
I missed this post by Jeff and just noticed Mugs reply :D

In all seriousness, Im not a big player by any stretch of the imagination and dont think betfair would single me out as such...

But..I was thinking exactly along the same lines as Jeff.
I created brand new system not long back and it had an extremely good strike rate and the profits were coming in...then it was almost like a switch being turned on and the profits ceased. Ive been around long enough to not confuse this with ups and downs

I managed to get around this partially by incorporating a "random number generator" into the algorithm and it now goes off and does its own thing (within guidelines), so its unpredictable

(By the way, it would be technically feasible for betfair to profile your account to predict and manage risk against you) Some of the CRM systems employed by large companies are extremely complex and customer profiling isn't that hard to do

IMO - if betfair wanted to stop the 1% (profitable earners), they could do so very easy :o
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Euler
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I've spoken to senior line managers and directors at Betfair and they are adamant that this is not happening though. More likely to be a accidental side effect of something. Or a function or an evolving market.
barlorca
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Apologies to Euler but to refer to Many Rice-Davies famous (mis)quote "They would say that, wouldn't they"
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Euler
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Just wanted to let everybody know I have raised it.

Also, be careful not to feel the world is against you when trading. It always feels like that, like somebody is looking over your shoulder. Even when you get very experienced it's difficult not to think like that.
steven1976
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Nice one peter. Look forward to hearing what their reply is.
Iron
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Perhaps a Betfair supercomputer has captured 'essence of Mugs', and knows more about how you trade than your conscious mind does! :lol: :)

Jeff
mugsgame wrote: Thing is Jeff there is no way they can mimic my trades. Because I have idea what I am going to do myself :)
barlorca
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Don't know whats happening or what's causing it, but I keep away from horseracing as it is the only market I'm guaranteed to lose on.

Before I was doing okay, now things have gone crazy, and logic and sanity have left the markets.
hgodden
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I didn't trade today. Surely this bot wasn't switched on again?
PeterLe
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hgodden wrote:I didn't trade today. Surely this bot wasn't switched on again?
H, we are just talking in general not related specifically to today
hgodden
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Thank you PeterLe
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