Premier League 2014/15
I wouldn't read too much into a single game. Even the legendary Fergie occasionally lost a game! 
Van Persie and Luke Shaw were both unavailable, and hopefully VG will buy in some new players before the transfer window closes.
As for the squad last season, don't forget that some of the senior players have left or retired, and the season before that the - ahem - mediocre squad won the Premiership by a country mile.
If I did long-term value bets, I'd back United at 9.6 to win the Premiership. Their price has shot up from about 6.0, based apparently on today's result, which is nuts.
Jeff
Van Persie and Luke Shaw were both unavailable, and hopefully VG will buy in some new players before the transfer window closes.
As for the squad last season, don't forget that some of the senior players have left or retired, and the season before that the - ahem - mediocre squad won the Premiership by a country mile.
If I did long-term value bets, I'd back United at 9.6 to win the Premiership. Their price has shot up from about 6.0, based apparently on today's result, which is nuts.
Jeff
They really struggled with 3 at the back, too much inexperience, along with the fact that Smalling is just plain awful. However, this could be a blessing in disguise, as Van Gaal will be able to assume more power over the transfers as I'm sure the Glaziers weren't too happy with that performance.
+1
VG knows his stuff, and if the Glazers don't give him the players he says he needs, they have only themselves to blame if the club takes a nosedive.
Jeff
VG knows his stuff, and if the Glazers don't give him the players he says he needs, they have only themselves to blame if the club takes a nosedive.
Jeff
Naffman wrote:They really struggled with 3 at the back, too much inexperience, along with the fact that Smalling is just plain awful. However, this could be a blessing in disguise, as Van Gaal will be able to assume more power over the transfers as I'm sure the Glaziers weren't too happy with that performance.
Some stats doing the rounds
Manchester United lose the 1st match of a top flight campaign AT HOME for the first time in 42 years (1972/73). Pre-Giggsian era
1 - Manchester United have lost on the opening day at home for the first time since 1972/73 (2-1 to Ipswich Town). Rare.
In #EPL era 3 times a league title was won by losers on Matchday 1 - Man Utd in 92/93, 95/96 and 12/13. Never won by team losing AT HOME.
Manchester United lose the 1st match of a top flight campaign AT HOME for the first time in 42 years (1972/73). Pre-Giggsian era
1 - Manchester United have lost on the opening day at home for the first time since 1972/73 (2-1 to Ipswich Town). Rare.
In #EPL era 3 times a league title was won by losers on Matchday 1 - Man Utd in 92/93, 95/96 and 12/13. Never won by team losing AT HOME.
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Another stat I read on FB. David moyes beat Swansea on his first prem game?
Yes, 4-1 away I think. RVP is available next week, so it will be interesting to see how they bounce back.steven1976 wrote:Another stat I read on FB. David moyes beat Swansea on his first prem game?
Onto Liverpool vs Southampton tomorrow, Liverpool have only won 12/37 at Anfield, a poor record considering they have won 24/37 at St. Mary's.
http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4019/tra ... _HP_RI_0_3
Rojo confirmed - a good and needed signing IMO. All they need now is another defender, LM and CM
Rojo confirmed - a good and needed signing IMO. All they need now is another defender, LM and CM
Hi Robin
I don't know, although I imagine there are sites where you can obtain that data, and then use a spreadsheet to test whether the system still works.
There are stats for similar mean reversion systems in this book, which show them to be successful over hundreds of thousands of trades: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Short-Term-Trad ... 924&sr=1-1
I put this to some financial traders in a forum I visit, which is frequented by people who backtest systems mechanically. The consensus (which may or may not be right) was that these counter-trend systems might be shown to have worked well for thousands of trades, but that doesn't mean that you wouldn't eventually lose your entire bank very quickly. You have to wonder why the authors chose the data sets and the parameters they used - perhaps they would have obtained different results with different data, or if they had altered the parameters slightly (in which case their methods aren't robust).
I'm not saying that there is no merit in the approach, however. Some of the smartest people in the world of finance were behind Long Term Capital Management, which used the mean reversion principle (and which eventually went bust).
Jeff
I don't know, although I imagine there are sites where you can obtain that data, and then use a spreadsheet to test whether the system still works.
There are stats for similar mean reversion systems in this book, which show them to be successful over hundreds of thousands of trades: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Short-Term-Trad ... 924&sr=1-1
I put this to some financial traders in a forum I visit, which is frequented by people who backtest systems mechanically. The consensus (which may or may not be right) was that these counter-trend systems might be shown to have worked well for thousands of trades, but that doesn't mean that you wouldn't eventually lose your entire bank very quickly. You have to wonder why the authors chose the data sets and the parameters they used - perhaps they would have obtained different results with different data, or if they had altered the parameters slightly (in which case their methods aren't robust).
I'm not saying that there is no merit in the approach, however. Some of the smartest people in the world of finance were behind Long Term Capital Management, which used the mean reversion principle (and which eventually went bust).
Jeff
robingray wrote:Ferru123,
does this still work?
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=3471
Do you have any stats?
Robin