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newbietrader
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fxck me its getting harder day by day like if I lay at bottom then before my 2£ stake is matched it just drift and if I find top of range and try to back then it shorten before my 2£ is matched how do you guys gets your money matched
fumanshoe66
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newbie,

Why have you gone with the method of laying at the bottom and backing at the top of ranges for the sake of it?? Thats all very well if you understand why he is there but do you? Have a look at the market (all runners) and try understand what is making that horses price move
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mklim_irlpl
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people won't share their experiances
and strategies with people who take their money
it would be worth a while to check out
betfair traders on youtube for the start
marko236
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fumanshoe66 wrote:newbie,

Why have you gone with the method of laying at the bottom and backing at the top of ranges for the sake of it?? Thats all very well if you understand why he is there but do you? Have a look at the market (all runners) and try understand what is making that horses price move
Been there done that waste of time. Because a market has gone up a good bit doesn't mean it will come back down and vice versa.
newbietrader
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fumanshoe66 wrote:newbie,

Why have you gone with the method of laying at the bottom and backing at the top of ranges for the sake of it?? Thats all very well if you understand why he is there but do you? Have a look at the market (all runners) and try understand what is making that horses price move
in videos on youtube traders saying to back at top of range and lay at bottom? but even if it didn't traded any lower whole day it gets heavily backed before the off then how you decide what's actually bottom, whatever happens I'm keen to learn this
newbietrader
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mklim_irlpl wrote:people won't share their experiances
and strategies with people who take their money
it would be worth a while to check out
betfair traders on youtube for the start
peter, caan and tony put on lots of videos on youtube + mgeducational is really helpful but they all do it so easily while when I do its painfully oposite
newbietrader
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marko236 wrote:
fumanshoe66 wrote:newbie,

Why have you gone with the method of laying at the bottom and backing at the top of ranges for the sake of it?? Thats all very well if you understand why he is there but do you? Have a look at the market (all runners) and try understand what is making that horses price move
Been there done that waste of time. Because a market has gone up a good bit doesn't mean it will come back down and vice versa.
that's confusing part if you feel its really top of range it still drifts
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gazuty
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There is so much to learn in that particular blog article. So much.

Simplicity, probability, thinking about how to pass the parcel, thinking about pressure in the market.

Strongly resonated with me.

Some people complain the secret is never given away and yet, it's right there in black and white typeface.
newbietrader
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gazuty wrote:
There is so much to learn in that particular blog article. So much.

Simplicity, probability, thinking about how to pass the parcel, thinking about pressure in the market.

Strongly resonated with me.

Some people complain the secret is never given away and yet, it's right there in black and white typeface.
I read that many times still I'm not getting it, what automation peter talked about?
spreadbetting
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Bet Angels automation (botting) is explained here and in videos on the youtube site.

http://www.betangel.com/guardian/automation.php

If you were looking for his automation rules it might be easier just to ask him to send winnings direct to your account.
newbietrader
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spreadbetting wrote:Bet Angels automation (botting) is explained here and in videos on the youtube site.

http://www.betangel.com/guardian/automation.php

If you were looking for his automation rules it might be easier just to ask him to send winnings direct to your account.
nah I didn't knew where automation is thanks mate
newbietrader
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so for the first time today I watched all 4 top horses price movement today and not just one I'm trading lol, decent result did 24 trades total, 4 scratch 3 losing and 14 1 ticks scalp sucessfully, made 1£ only but was strictly pre off and not in play I'm understanding it lil more each day :)
Murgo
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That's the way Newbie :P Keep doing that for a while and you'll learn heaps. Once you are feeling comfortable start raising your stakes and it will be more rewarding and exciting (gets a bit boring with very small stakes).

Sounds easy but controlling your discipline and emotions becomes the crtical part of it.
newbietrader
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Murgo wrote:That's the way Newbie :P Keep doing that for a while and you'll learn heaps. Once you are feeling comfortable start raising your stakes and it will be more rewarding and exciting (gets a bit boring with very small stakes).

Sounds easy but controlling your discipline and emotions becomes the crtical part of it.
yes murgo I'm not gonna quit it I have lil better feelings about market now but I find 15-5 minutes before the off market lil stable but in last 5 minutes it gets batchit crazy with so much money flowing here and there also I just have 10£ bank now in case I go retard and let it go in play max I can lose is tenner I'll use fiver from next week and in crease 5£ per week
newbietrader
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okay day yesterday made around 1.20£ then I used lay the field in last race at kempton layed them all at 1.51 in play as it was 6f race 3 traded at 1.51 before new rich went on winning made around 0.50£ laying the field :)
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