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bagata88
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I use new version of bet angel (7).
When I put my bet on autralian horse race ,even small -3pounds and my bet is in front of the line there is immediately another bet 2 pounds coming straight away with my bet ,when I cancel this bet is canceled with mine .

Who place this bet ? Truly is looking like any spreadsheet is connected to betangel .
bagata88
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It happened today on 11.45 Bank race horse 2 -Finucane ,here is the log :

2010-04-05 11:23:45: Market changed to Bank (AUS) 5th Apr - 11:45 R7 2140m Pace S
2010-04-05 11:24:01: £ 3 Lay bet placed on 2. Finucane at 1.83. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700671418
2010-04-05 11:24:08: Cancelling bets 700671418
2010-04-05 11:24:16: £ 3 Lay bet placed on 2. Finucane at 1.83. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700671618
2010-04-05 11:24:29: Cancelling bets 700671618
2010-04-05 11:24:38: £ 3 Lay bet placed on 2. Finucane at 1.83. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700671800
2010-04-05 11:24:44: Cancelling bets 700671800
2010-04-05 11:24:47: £ 3 Lay bet placed on 2. Finucane at 1.83. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700671832
2010-04-05 11:24:50: Cancelling bets 700671832
2010-04-05 11:24:53: £ 10 Lay bet placed on 2. Finucane at 1.83. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700671880
2010-04-05 11:24:59: Cancelling bets 700671880
2010-04-05 11:27:18: £ 3 Lay bet placed on 2. Finucane at 1.77. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700673190
2010-04-05 11:27:32: Cancelling bets 700673190
2010-04-05 11:27:37: £ 3 Lay bet placed on 2. Finucane at 2.04. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700673387
2010-04-05 11:27:43: Cancelling bets 700673387
2010-04-05 11:27:45: £ 3 Lay bet placed on 2. Finucane at 2.02. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700673467
2010-04-05 11:27:51: Cancelling bets 700673467
2010-04-05 11:27:54: £ 3 Lay bet placed on 2. Finucane at 2.02. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700673537
2010-04-05 11:27:58: Cancelling bets 700673537
2010-04-05 11:28:05: £ 3 Lay bet placed on 2. Finucane at 2.02. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700673599
2010-04-05 11:28:08: Cancelling bets 700673599
2010-04-05 11:28:13: £ 3 Lay bet placed on 2. Finucane at 2.04. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700673624
2010-04-05 11:28:15: Cancelling bets 700673624
2010-04-05 11:31:43: £ 3 Lay bet placed on 2. Finucane at 2.3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700675378
2010-04-05 11:31:46: Cancelling bets 700675378
2010-04-05 11:32:17: £ 3 Lay bet placed on 3. Camlight at 4.2. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700675608
2010-04-05 11:32:22: Cancelling bets 700675608
2010-04-05 11:32:29: £ 3 Lay bet placed on 2. Finucane at 2.3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 700675690
2010-04-05 11:32:31: Cancelling bets 700675690

I put small bet and cancel it and it happened many times .
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Bet Angel
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There are some crafty souls who put a bet for 1.99 in a market. Betfair don't show these bets as they are under £2. When you put a bet in the market it's not just your bet but this 1.99 bet that shows as well. Betfair round up these values to show the new value of not £4.99 but £5. So despite only putting £3 in the market you suddenly get a £5 value. That is probably what you are seeing, unless I have misunderstood the question.
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CaerMyrddin
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Spot on, I've seen that happenning too...
bagata88
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Yes ,it's reasonable explanation ,some people trying to cover the gap fall in trap and their bets are matched ,beacause they don't see money over there.

But by the way I will ask you if this is possible that softowner (not you ,in general ) can build extra spreadsheet to his software which will follow automatically one of the succesful traders putting bets in front of him ?That's what I think suggest Jim Makos in his blog .
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CaerMyrddin
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I would like to know that too.

And as far as I can tell, you don't need to place a £1.99 bet, you only need to be trading on another currency ;)
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