betfair bot

[tiha_patnja]

Hi, I am looking for a bot that enables me to place bets as soon as the market opens. Is there such a bot?

[gazuty]

i do not wish to be rude or intolerant but this is a helluva first post, which amounts to give me a bot.

I don't know if such a bot exists, but if I had developed it, I wouldn't share it.

[Euler]

Hi, I am looking for a bot that enables me to place bets as soon as the market opens. Is there such a bot?

TBH I think you are wasting your time anyhow. It's a very competitive market and when I looked at it, no matter how fast I was somebody was always faster.

[tiha_patnja]

i do not wish to be rude or intolerant but this is a helluva first post, which amounts to give me a bot.

I am being very stupid now but I honestly do not understand what this part of your post means. I have googled helluva but the context of "which amounts to give me a bot." I do not understand. I do not wish to be rude sorry.

TBH I think you are wasting your time anyhow. It's a very competitive market and when I looked at it, no matter how fast I was somebody was always faster.

Euler thanks for your answer. I see a big edge in being matched faster, so this was my question for some time. I have asked helpdesk when does the specific market opens for example round x of premier league but they did not answer me with any specific answer it was more it opens when it opens haha. Do you have any idea about that?

[hilly2908]

It means you come across a bit cheeky and presumptuous by coming straight out in your 1st forum post by effectivly asking someone to just give you a bot that someone has invested time and money in making - only for them to give you a copy of to reep the end benefits. Had you asked for help, assistance and pointers on how to create your own you would of gotten a more helpful response.

Gazuty Sorry if you think i jumped in here but i clearly understood where you where coming from in your reply to this post.

Andy

[marko236]

I think he is looking for a bot to fire when the market opens, he didn't say anything about getting in first or at the best price.

[tiha_patnja]

It means you come across a bit cheeky and presumptuous by coming straight out in your 1st forum post by effectivly asking someone to just give you a bot that someone has invested time and money in making - only for them to give you a copy of to reep the end benefits. Had you asked for help, assistance and pointers on how to create your own you would of gotten a more helpful response.

Gazuty Sorry if you think i jumped in here but i clearly understood where you where coming from in your reply to this post.

Andy

Well I am studying computer science so with some research I am confident that I can make it myself but why would I if there is something like betangel, geeks, etc that can do the same. I did not ask it for free nor did I disrespect anyone. Its like someone telling you that you should not use betangel because you did not code it.

I have researched bots online but did not find the one I am looking for.

I do not understand how is my post count relevant to me asking the question in newbies corner?!

I think that Euler understood what I am looking for. If someone did not you can see the explanation in my second post.

Thanks for those that tried to help.

[gazuty]

Gazuty Sorry if you think i jumped in here but i clearly understood where you where coming from in your reply to this post.

Andy

Spot on.

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Being first to post up a price in the market is in my experience generally only helpful if you are pursuing a strategy such as wanting to lay 1.01 (and on that strategy if you are not first - even though it is superficially profitable - it will not be profitable if you are second or third or beyond).

However, you may have other theories and strategies. Good luck and with your programming background I am sure you will figure out a way yourself to solve this.

[rinconpaul]

Your original question was quite pertinent Tiha. I've asked the same question myself of Betfair, and on their forum. Never got an answer! It must be a closely guarded secret or just at human whim, I suspect?

My thought process was along the lines of finding a time to lay both sides in sports just as the market gets a little liquidity. Could be days out from the start, or hours or minutes? No one knows, it seems? I think the secret would be to somehow log, when markets become available, and see if their is a common thread. (That thought bubble is not an intro for someone, who shall remain nameless, to think it was a helluva request for a bot either!)

i would assume it is sport type and likely turnover related? There is money to be made IMHO, if you can crack that code. Good luck.

[spreadbetting]

Not sure why everyone's getting upset over simple question in what is the Newbies section tbf.

I'd have to agree with Euler on this one, no matter how fast you are someone will always be in before you, whether that's Betfair's own traders or a preferred partner we can only speculate.

I've tried in the past but the so called "sweet spots" have always be taken but if you have your own sweet spots there are gaps in the markets to get in first. Technically it's just a case of coding your own bot to request all or the sports you're interested in , compare to a database of a previous scrape and fire at any new markets that interest you. Because markets are added incrementally you can even keep hitting the next available market ID until it becomes available.

As far as when markets get put up I never found any set or regular time so it's pretty much a 24/7 bot you'll need to run depending on what markets you're after.

[LinusP]

You can continue to request markets, this will then give you the market as soon as it is open. Once its open you need to get your bet in the quickest, and that is the hard part, you then have to look into colocation, multiprocessing etc.

[rinconpaul]

One thing about this forum, is the thought bubble consensus seems to be that everyone's a trader to be on here? Well I'm not, and all this 1.01 nonsense means zip to me! Has anyone even considered that it might be a matter of knowing when a market is open so you can monitor liquidity? Your rules might be to only enter the market when the lay-back is within a certain % and place a one sided bet. I do that every day.

Bet Angel is very useful for that reason alone, using formulas to trigger straight back or lay bets. I assume Guardian can only schedule events that are open for betting? Is it possible for Guardian to list all events that Betfair will open a market for, say 7 days out from advertised start, and keep trying to apply rules like, "Once market is open and pool size is 'X' and spread < 'Y' trigger"?? Dunno

[tomallen123]

I always assumed that befair were the first to get their money in the market when it opened.

[DavDvo]

I remember post from another forum. The guy coded a bot that was able to fire bet [email protected] to new market within milliseconds after opening, but he gave up, because always there was somebody faster. I think we all have an idea where did those bets come from...