That turned out quite nice for anyone who took the £1000 on offer at 1.54/1.55 this morningLeTiss 4pm wrote:Good point Oscar, I didn't think about layers looking to free their bank back
I notice a slight drift on Corbyn this morning - you can back him at 1.54, but the best priced bookie is 1.40
That's quite a difference if you think he's going to win
Next Labour leader
Labour risks 'annihilation' if Jeremy Corbyn is leader - Tony Blair
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33896414
In the days before registration to vote closed on Wednesday, Labour received more than 160,000 applications.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33896414
In the days before registration to vote closed on Wednesday, Labour received more than 160,000 applications.
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tweebie1999
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Amazingly this whole fascinating Corbyn issue has even got me reading Labour rags:
Here is a quote from Labour Uncut on the question of whether there will be a split after the election:
'' Corbyn has no governing experience, he is easily riled, his policies are mad and he has numerous unsavory foreign connections''
Whole article:
http://labouruncut.co.uk/2015/07/30/sho ... rbyn-wins/
Tony Blair also has a few unsavoury foreign connections. Can we get a price on Corbyn being given a dodgy cup of tea soon?
Here is a quote from Labour Uncut on the question of whether there will be a split after the election:
'' Corbyn has no governing experience, he is easily riled, his policies are mad and he has numerous unsavory foreign connections''
Whole article:
http://labouruncut.co.uk/2015/07/30/sho ... rbyn-wins/
Tony Blair also has a few unsavoury foreign connections. Can we get a price on Corbyn being given a dodgy cup of tea soon?
Interesting. Corbyn now at 1.37 for the win, you'd have to be brave to lay him at this point.
Similar situations happened here in New Zealand, after leadership changes to the centre-left Labour Party. More left-wing, less mainstream candidates were put forward, which the wider party tried to stop. For your information, they failed, due to changes in the voting system (the more ideological left-wing candidates won the leadership). This suggests that Corbyn will in fact win.
Similar situations happened here in New Zealand, after leadership changes to the centre-left Labour Party. More left-wing, less mainstream candidates were put forward, which the wider party tried to stop. For your information, they failed, due to changes in the voting system (the more ideological left-wing candidates won the leadership). This suggests that Corbyn will in fact win.
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tweebie1999
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I think it's a lay. Surely people will see sense when the actually have the ballot paper in their hand. A Corbyn vote will destroy Labour and render the UK a one party state for a generation.
Or maybe Labour has finally realised what most English people have known for years. That they are bloody useless at managing the economy and should stay in opposition forever
Or maybe Labour has finally realised what most English people have known for years. That they are bloody useless at managing the economy and should stay in opposition forever
Strange mixture really
The favourite is a borderline communist
He's competing against 2 women - the wife of Ed Balls, and a bird who was getting shagged by the lanky teacher from the Inbetweeners a few months back
Plus Andy Burnham, a man who Gordon Brown 'had his eye on' the moment he got elected into Westminster. He seems like a Blairite to me, albiet slightly less delusional.
How long before he asks everyone to call him Drew?
The favourite is a borderline communist
He's competing against 2 women - the wife of Ed Balls, and a bird who was getting shagged by the lanky teacher from the Inbetweeners a few months back
Plus Andy Burnham, a man who Gordon Brown 'had his eye on' the moment he got elected into Westminster. He seems like a Blairite to me, albiet slightly less delusional.
How long before he asks everyone to call him Drew?
Burnham has mass appeal beyond Labour's core vote, Corbyn doesn't. Central left Maggie alternative for the other votes that may get some votes. You can't help but think the risk of a split will shoot up if Corbyn gets it. It's been a really interesting market.
My tactic for now would be to look to lay Corbyn if the market starts to hint that the voting is different from the polling. That should show up in the market fairly quickly.
My tactic for now would be to look to lay Corbyn if the market starts to hint that the voting is different from the polling. That should show up in the market fairly quickly.
At least if we have a proper left Labour and a proper right wing Tory there can be an idealogical debate.
A. Do you want the state to run everything, have high taxes and social welfare handouts
B. Do you want the elite to run everything , get rich and everyone else can go fuck themselves
A. Do you want the state to run everything, have high taxes and social welfare handouts
B. Do you want the elite to run everything , get rich and everyone else can go fuck themselves
I think you're right about the ideological debate Archangel. At least Corbyn seems to believe in what he is proposing rather than just doing whatever people say must be done to get elected.
About the debate though, I think it's not, or shouldn't, just be a case of A or B, yet it's the only ways we seem to get fed by the media as even possible.
Both left wing, and right wing, ideologies, certainly at the most extreme end but not exclusively, just lead to the wealth and power being in the hands of the few and everyone else being subservant to that. IMO there needs to be some sort of mechanism in place which limits the power one individual or group can yield in society.
Even if Corbyn did somehow manage to get elected I think he would find it near impossible to make any substantial changes to the way that society works in this era of globalisation. Could make Britain something of a pariah and do a lot of damage unless other countries subscribed to more leftist views, but at least, like you say, if he becomes leader it could spark up more of a debate.
About the debate though, I think it's not, or shouldn't, just be a case of A or B, yet it's the only ways we seem to get fed by the media as even possible.
Both left wing, and right wing, ideologies, certainly at the most extreme end but not exclusively, just lead to the wealth and power being in the hands of the few and everyone else being subservant to that. IMO there needs to be some sort of mechanism in place which limits the power one individual or group can yield in society.
Even if Corbyn did somehow manage to get elected I think he would find it near impossible to make any substantial changes to the way that society works in this era of globalisation. Could make Britain something of a pariah and do a lot of damage unless other countries subscribed to more leftist views, but at least, like you say, if he becomes leader it could spark up more of a debate.
I've always felt that increasing private shareholders in large companies would give people a say over how they are run if enough private shareholders have a stake.hgodden wrote:Both left wing, and right wing, ideologies, certainly at the most extreme end but not exclusively, just lead to the wealth and power being in the hands of the few and everyone else being subservant to that. IMO there needs to be some sort of mechanism in place which limits the power one individual or group can yield in society.
But then you look at Betfair issuing a bonus of £11m on £40m in profits to its CEO and you realise that only wider ownership would stop that. Power is still concentrated for silly things like that to happen. Breon is feeling your back pocket right now and there is little to stop him.
I was being a bit tongue in cheek with the A or B polarisationhgodden wrote:I think you're right about the ideological debate Archangel. At least Corbyn seems to believe in what he is proposing rather than just doing whatever people say must be done to get elected.
About the debate though, I think it's not, or shouldn't, just be a case of A or B, yet it's the only ways we seem to get fed by the media as even possible.
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I do agree and what I hate more than anything is the centerist politics of saying whatever is going to get you elected, not standing on any principle. I could respect someone who is standing on a conviction, even if i disagreed with their view. Sadly however there a precious few of such politicians around today !