How To Make a Profitable Automation Rule in Guardian

[PeterLe]

- having a lot of fun playing around with it....

Regards
J

I dont want to hijack the post, but thats the main point. Once there is no fun, then it feels like work.
Obviously, you have to watch your risk (but use practice mode at first)..
If youre lucky enough to gain some big wins, (eg£100), then the way I look it at is that I have covered further testing for 50 races at a £2 liability.
If your strategy is sound and based on good logic, as the bank grows, you will focus less on the bank and more on the strategies. the profits will look after themselves.
Also to add; I wouldnt get too hung up on trying to implement the 'exact' strategies Dallas mentioned in the opening post (they were only an example), rather; try and create something unique to yourself
Good luck!
Regards
Peter

[Dallas]

Thanks for the updates Peter im glad to hear you ve gotten something out of it, hopefully from a few of the other recent post others will do aswell.

I do want to try and drive home a point i have made several times earlier and that peter has also stated a few times and thats the stratergies i used in the opening post where just examples i used to explain the general concept.

As long as people are having fun thats definetly a positive for me, I 100% agree about the fun being very important in all aspects of trading and the day i stop enjoying it will be the day i stop trading full stop.

Hopefully this will continue to inspire others

I have the feeling that Guardian Automation is fractionally faster that Excel? Does anyone have any data to confirm ? Thanks

I'de be intested to know the facts on this myself and if the same also applies when running on VPS

[PeterLe]

The VPS has a faster connection to betfair so if you ran the exact same strategy on a VPS and on another account locally, the VPS would usually be first to market.

In days gone by, I did do some 'very basic' testing on Guardiann V Excel (ie identical strategies) and then compared the Betid's to see which was first
I only did some very basic testing and just wondered if anyone had gone into it in more depth

maybe Peter/BA would have some comments?
Thanks
regards
Peter

[Dallas]

The VPS has a faster connection to betfair so if you ran the exact same strategy on a VPS and on another account locally, the VPS would usually be first to market.

I ment if running same gurdian/excel rules on VPS would one still be slightly faster than the other?
And would it be same results as locally?

[PeterLe]

Yep thats the question I want to know:-

Q1: if running same gurdian/excel rules on (the same) VPS would one still be slightly faster than the other?

Re Q2: And would it be same results as locally?
I would think not. Even a few millseconds difference connection time to betfair as opposed to the connection time from your local system can cause different results.

By the way; just for newbies.. when running strategies you have to give them time to show a pattern. In that last race at Ling, I had the same system running on two accounts (on the same VPS, ie identitical connection time) One produced about four times the profit of the other. It was actually down to one bet.
The reason for this is prob down to the cycle time in Guardian (200ms is the max) one was able to squeeze in a bet more as it may have been in a different part of the cycle (if that makes sense!)
Right - we're off for a walk around the lake today, so good luck guys

[zd210291]

Thanks for the help Dallas! Does anyone have the basic automation rule Dallas has described here that they could share? Bit of a newbie so struggling to create one in excel

[geoffrey1928]

I have been trying to do a rule to cover this today......without success.

Do you use the place lay bet, with all horses selected, or use the lay all selection? With of course the condition that a selection is under 1.8 or whatever price is selected?

[PeterLe]

I thought this would be a good place to post this..just to add to the theme of this thread..
Once you can get a good strategy going..you can often look for a variant of that strategy to hedge your bets and safe guard your profits..in other words if one fails, quite often the other will profit and visa versa (sometimes they both win, sometimes they both lose)
If you look at this last race at Fairy it doesnt really matter which one wins, one will offset the the other
(the accounts are both mine and are not dependant on each other for triggers, they are both sucessful in their own right long term). All I do is to look at the overall profit/loss overall at the end of the month
Just to add to the mix really and help newbies think about strategies in general
Regards
Peter
(PS I dont actually know which one won this !)

[Dallas]

Thanks for sharing that PeterLe it will be a great benefit for users to keep in mind as they develop there strategies

[gutuami]

Boston Bob was the winner