Today's Horse Racing

[xitian]

How very strange! I connect to the API directly and have virtual prices on, and was also seeing the same thing. A second after it went in play all the prices went wonky, but were still updating. It was only after the race was suspended that they returned to sensible numbers.

From my matched data, it does look like only "normal" prices were being matched though.

[Wainwright]

I'm guessing that they should have turned cross matching off because of the non-runner, but didn't, resulting in screwed up virtual prices.

Non-virtual prices were fine for me...

[Crazyskier]

I'm guessing that they should have turned cross matching off because of the non-runner, but didn't, resulting in screwed up virtual prices.

Non-virtual prices were fine for me...

Yes, makes sense. Weird how my heart was beating out of my chest at that green-up figure when BA thought it could lay all at 1.04 LOL.

These things often give little insights into oneself I find...

[Lost The Rider]

Faugheen out of Cheltenham!

[ijustlovesnickers]

I should imagine that has wiped out a lot of accas already.

[convoysur-2]

kempton 5.50 fav isharah
i will never understand people backing blindly horses like this that have never run before they backed the shit outa that one because they fancy the jockey or trainer ,fools and there money are easily parted,
perhaps saying fools is not nice.but if i had backed that thing with absolutly no form- ever.
i would feel like a fool,
its little wonder bookies make billions per year,
i always lay them ,always .
rant over
correction--i wont lay mullens or o brien ,that would just be silly

[ijustlovesnickers]

kempton 5.50 fav isharah
i will never understand people backing blindly horses like this that have never run before they backed the shit outa that one because they fancy the jockey or trainer ,fools and there money are easily parted,
perhaps saying fools is not nice.but if i had backed that thing with absolutly no form- ever.
i would feel like a fool,
its little wonder bookies make billions per year,
i always lay them ,always .
rant over
correction--i wont lay mullens or o brien ,that would just be silly

I agree with you to some extent. I will only back an unraced horse if it has a good pedigree and there is money for it.

[convoysur-2]

I agree with you to some extent. I will only back an unraced horse if it has a good pedigree and there is money for it.


ok ,,,so that one had good pedegre and cost 6 figures and there was money for it ,and it was no where,

like i said -fools and there money

[ijustlovesnickers]

what you are saying is entirely wrong i'm afraid.
Just because the horse lost doesn't mean fools and there money are parted.
There are a lot of shrewd bettors out there... but more mug punters in that i do agree with you.

Todays runner:
I truly believe that horse was worthy of being favourite and at the price it went off at was value. FACT. I will lay it on the line the horse finished 3rd (excluding accidents/injuries etc) this horse will turn out far far better then the rest of the field. It didnt happen today.
If you placed that bet everyday on the same horse in the same race you would make a profit long term. Nothing really went to plan and I would suspect a left hand track would suit the horse and a little further in distance.

Alot of horses show ability very early at home and i believe this horse is useful
For example: A certain race track will produce over 40% on Favs in maidens.

The breeding was perfect for the All weather track and the dam has been quite successful already.

However, There are occasions more often or not where very similar runner is not value.

That is the skill, knowing the difference.

[stueytrader]

kempton 5.50 fav isharah
i will never understand people backing blindly horses like this that have never run before they backed the shit outa that one because they fancy the jockey or trainer ,fools and there money are easily parted,
perhaps saying fools is not nice.but if i had backed that thing with absolutly no form- ever.
i would feel like a fool,
its little wonder bookies make billions per year,
i always lay them ,always .
rant over
correction--i wont lay mullens or o brien ,that would just be silly

5.50 same race, the winner drifted crazy before the off, despite no reason - I had gone for back to lay on it, but ended redding for a larger red against it, then it wins.
I absolutely hate that scenario - kills me. I want it to shorten, it drifts, but then runs like a dream in the race despite that. Market knows nothing of the race sometimes.

[marko236]

kempton 5.50 fav isharah
i will never understand people backing blindly horses like this that have never run before they backed the shit outa that one because they fancy the jockey or trainer ,fools and there money are easily parted,
perhaps saying fools is not nice.but if i had backed that thing with absolutly no form- ever.
i would feel like a fool,
its little wonder bookies make billions per year,
i always lay them ,always .
rant over
correction--i wont lay mullens or o brien ,that would just be silly

5.50 same race, the winner drifted crazy before the off, despite no reason - I had gone for back to lay on it, but ended redding for a larger red against it, then it wins.
I absolutely hate that scenario - kills me. I want it to shorten, it drifts, but then runs like a dream in the race despite that. Market knows nothing of the race sometimes.

In the long run the market is pretty much 100% right.

[stueytrader]

kempton 5.50 fav isharah
i will never understand people backing blindly horses like this that have never run before they backed the shit outa that one because they fancy the jockey or trainer ,fools and there money are easily parted,
perhaps saying fools is not nice.but if i had backed that thing with absolutly no form- ever.
i would feel like a fool,
its little wonder bookies make billions per year,
i always lay them ,always .
rant over
correction--i wont lay mullens or o brien ,that would just be silly

5.50 same race, the winner drifted crazy before the off, despite no reason - I had gone for back to lay on it, but ended redding for a larger red against it, then it wins.
I absolutely hate that scenario - kills me. I want it to shorten, it drifts, but then runs like a dream in the race despite that. Market knows nothing of the race sometimes.

In the long run the market is pretty much 100% right.

You are right, as an 'average' - but in specific races it is sometimes clueless. Guess outsiders would never win otherwise.

I think it's something I need to deal with personally, but I hate backing a horse that then drifts, only to see it run an excellent race.

You feel like 'why am I trading' at those points, lol

[Naffman]

It was weird how around the official off time it was approx. 3.1 and somehow got smashed into 2.5 in about 60 seconds. Deserves them right for being that stupid really

[convoysur-2]

kempton 5.50 fav isharah
i will never understand people backing blindly horses like this that have never run before they backed the shit outa that one because they fancy the jockey or trainer ,fools and there money are easily parted,
perhaps saying fools is not nice.but if i had backed that thing with absolutly no form- ever.
i would feel like a fool,
its little wonder bookies make billions per year,
i always lay them ,always .
rant over
correction--i wont lay mullens or o brien ,that would just be silly

5.50 same race, the winner drifted crazy before the off, despite no reason - I had gone for back to lay on it, but ended redding for a larger red against it, then it wins.
I absolutely hate that scenario - kills me. I want it to shorten, it drifts, but then runs like a dream in the race despite that. Market knows nothing of the race sometimes.

In the long run the market is pretty much 100% right.

this we could talk about for hours,,when you say that in the long run they get it pretty much 100% right,i have to disagree ,
let me give you an example of how i see it,,(not saying im right ,just how i see it)
attached see simple 4 horse race at kempton tonight 6.50,the fav went off at just above evens 2.08..the stats on favs winning this race are 31% ,so in my view the fav was too short and was a value lay,so i laid him.i think in this case the market had the fav 19% too short ,i seen it as a 2 horse race and the second fav was over priced ,but rather than back a hold up horse i laid the overpriced fav,,,please see the result..
on pic one look under fate of favourites

[marko236]

You get value odds as the pre market ends and you also get non value odds, add the two up and you will pretty much break even.