How do you lot do it
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giulio2010
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frustrated wrote:mug i have read your posts your a cyber bully
You have no idea how many times I thought that as well....lol
but he has credibility ( without a sleem of prove) but he has it......
Some people turn a blind eye to bullying. I'd like to think that I'm not one of those people. And yes, calling a someone a c**k because they said something you disapproved of is a form of bullying in my book. I doubt you'd do that face to face, so what makes you think doing over the internet is any different?
It really wouldn't hurt for you to try to be a bit more accepting of others' views, rather than name calling and engaging in sarcasm when people express a view that you disapprove of.
Jeff
It really wouldn't hurt for you to try to be a bit more accepting of others' views, rather than name calling and engaging in sarcasm when people express a view that you disapprove of.
Jeff
mugsgame wrote:I feel like I want to say something, but worried Jeff will tell me off again.
I really understand where you are comming from but this takes time to learn i pre race trade and can make roughly 5-10% of my capital within 45 -1 hour of racing, which is fairly large and split up for not falling out the game after this time i stop and get on with the outside world. At the end of the month my p.n.l is healthyGain as much knowledge as you can cause that is the source to power and successfrustrated wrote:Just for the record, i have had mainly good days over the last three months, lucky enough there was some help from this forum which helped me tweak it slightly, i have been on this solid 10 hours a day for three months, and even thinking about it all the time when i was not trading, i have lost £3000 and i nearly gave up 5 times, so cut me some slack here guys.
But i wouldnt spend that amount of time on your PC it leaves room for nothing else
good luck
When someone makes outlandish claims about anything, then they are probably going to get a reaction,
which is most likely what frustrated wanted anyway as not convinced he/ she's for real for a start.
Maybe calling him a cock was a bit to much, if he did that i didn't see it, but bullying lets get real now.
which is most likely what frustrated wanted anyway as not convinced he/ she's for real for a start.
Maybe calling him a cock was a bit to much, if he did that i didn't see it, but bullying lets get real now.
All Frustrated is guilty of is letting his enthusiasm about Betfair get the better of his judgement. He is/was possibly a bit naive. So what? To be called a c**k for that is out of order.
Jeff
Jeff
freddy wrote: Maybe calling him a cock was a bit to much, if he did that, but bullying lets get real.
Jeff if you were about to do something very very stupid like put you hand in a fire
then i really hope that the people around you would advise you not to do it.
But maybe not ?, if they were worried about being called a bully
that is.
That's all that's happend here imo, he's be given some advice, most of it has come from a good place and now he's got the hump because people disagreed with him.
then i really hope that the people around you would advise you not to do it.
But maybe not ?, if they were worried about being called a bully
that is.That's all that's happend here imo, he's be given some advice, most of it has come from a good place and now he's got the hump because people disagreed with him.
Right, lets put this to bed.
5 days ago Frustrated comes on to the forum. Firstly telling us he was frustrated because he lost 3k.
4 days ago he was telling us he had 'cracked it". Lots of posts about how easy it is.
3 days ago he was talking about a "reverse martingale".
I have no idea wether this guy is a fake or what. You guys that know me will know I have forthright views about things. I have been here since the start. I have seen 100's of people come on here asking how to make £500 a day, £300 a day £50 a day or whatever. Some chaps are just desperate for knowledge and want to hear from experienced traders who actually make a living from trading, or could do if they wanted to (there are many in that category, not making a living doesn't mean your not a good trader).
The reasons I post on here are 2 fold. I'm at my PC a huge amount of time (that's what it takes to be at the top of the game). Your edge (s) disappears daily, new ones and tweaks need to be discovered. The markets are always changing, you have to adapt with them. Trading can be a lonely business. interaction with others is important. The forum enables some interaction with people who may actually grasp what the hell I am talking about. My friends that don't use BF look at me like I'm an alien when I try to explain to them how to make a cheeky £50 risk free on a football match.
The other reason is I like to help people who genuinely want to learn. I spend at least an hour a day doing this and have helped to mentor several guys to full time level over the years - without any sort of payment except their friendship and gratitude.
Back to the matter in hand.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6540&start=60
You will see that I had grew a little tired of Frustrated and decided to have a little fun by saying "Well done mate. You have cracked it and will soon have that 20k. easy isn't it? The system I bought off eBay for £2.50 gave the all the edge I needed. Dunno what all the fuss is about".
It was sarcastic and was meant to be.
He asked if "we" we winding him up.
My reply was to be honest and tell him what I thought.
"Sorry mate, you have been on here 2 minutes and are giving it large. You come across as a real cock. Being the forum cock is my job, I work really hard at it"
You will see I told him I though he was "coming across as a bit of a cock" "Being a cock is MY job."
There was a little self deprecating humor in there.
This is the way I talk. I'd happily say that to someone in a pub if I needed to. Now for some of you to take offence by that comment is laughable.
So this is what I am going to do.
I am going to go away and think and wether or not I want to participate on this forum anymore. What I will be taking with me is 8 or 9 years experience of trading. 7 years of that full time. Profits enough to encounter the higher rate premium charge, and a willingness to help explain the process. All for free.
After this "cooling off" period. If I decide I do not want to come back I will be removing all of the posts I made.
5 days ago Frustrated comes on to the forum. Firstly telling us he was frustrated because he lost 3k.
4 days ago he was telling us he had 'cracked it". Lots of posts about how easy it is.
3 days ago he was talking about a "reverse martingale".
I have no idea wether this guy is a fake or what. You guys that know me will know I have forthright views about things. I have been here since the start. I have seen 100's of people come on here asking how to make £500 a day, £300 a day £50 a day or whatever. Some chaps are just desperate for knowledge and want to hear from experienced traders who actually make a living from trading, or could do if they wanted to (there are many in that category, not making a living doesn't mean your not a good trader).
The reasons I post on here are 2 fold. I'm at my PC a huge amount of time (that's what it takes to be at the top of the game). Your edge (s) disappears daily, new ones and tweaks need to be discovered. The markets are always changing, you have to adapt with them. Trading can be a lonely business. interaction with others is important. The forum enables some interaction with people who may actually grasp what the hell I am talking about. My friends that don't use BF look at me like I'm an alien when I try to explain to them how to make a cheeky £50 risk free on a football match.
The other reason is I like to help people who genuinely want to learn. I spend at least an hour a day doing this and have helped to mentor several guys to full time level over the years - without any sort of payment except their friendship and gratitude.
Back to the matter in hand.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6540&start=60
You will see that I had grew a little tired of Frustrated and decided to have a little fun by saying "Well done mate. You have cracked it and will soon have that 20k. easy isn't it? The system I bought off eBay for £2.50 gave the all the edge I needed. Dunno what all the fuss is about".
It was sarcastic and was meant to be.
He asked if "we" we winding him up.
My reply was to be honest and tell him what I thought.
"Sorry mate, you have been on here 2 minutes and are giving it large. You come across as a real cock. Being the forum cock is my job, I work really hard at it"
You will see I told him I though he was "coming across as a bit of a cock" "Being a cock is MY job."
There was a little self deprecating humor in there.
This is the way I talk. I'd happily say that to someone in a pub if I needed to. Now for some of you to take offence by that comment is laughable.
So this is what I am going to do.
I am going to go away and think and wether or not I want to participate on this forum anymore. What I will be taking with me is 8 or 9 years experience of trading. 7 years of that full time. Profits enough to encounter the higher rate premium charge, and a willingness to help explain the process. All for free.
After this "cooling off" period. If I decide I do not want to come back I will be removing all of the posts I made.
I wouldn't blame you if you didn't come back tbh, there are plenty of helpful post from you and others to help beginners out, if people could be arsed to use the search function that is, instead of being lazy and just posting the same old questions time and time again.
I just don't get it, people ask for help, but then think they know it all and ignore that advice .
I just don't get it, people ask for help, but then think they know it all and ignore that advice
.I think some tongue in cheek comments get lost in translation personally.
It may seem harsh to be so honest with some of the newbies but 1) Its probably what they need, because we all know this is a massive challenge and there are very few short cuts 2) It must get tedious trying to help the 100th newbie with the same questions that come up frequently when there is information all over this forum and for no gratitude to be shown.
It may seem harsh to be so honest with some of the newbies but 1) Its probably what they need, because we all know this is a massive challenge and there are very few short cuts 2) It must get tedious trying to help the 100th newbie with the same questions that come up frequently when there is information all over this forum and for no gratitude to be shown.
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BackHighLayLow
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Forums are not the easiest thing to browse / search for those who aren't used to them. Yes the same questions will keep coming up, yes there will be a lot of what is perceived dumb feature requests etc, etc. That is the way it will always be, as everyday there will be somebody new.Golfer wrote:2) It must get tedious trying to help the 100th newbie with the same questions that come up frequently when there is information all over this forum and for no gratitude to be shown.
Best thing to do is either help, or ignore. Tearing somebody a new butt hole { even in a nice way } for asking something that you conceive to be dumb probably isn't the best approach, as ultimately it will just scare off others from participating.
Ditto on the negative vibes. More people lose than win but yet human nature dictates that people mainly talk about the positives. { EG everyone uses the term Greening Up, when in reality more people red up than green.}
The harsh reality is it isn't all sunshine & lollipops for anyone, and if the actual reality was reflected on the internet in general, no one would gamble.