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Johnson arrested for drinking and driving. :D

https://news.sky.com/story/police-arres ... s-12871194
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 6:47 am
Kier Starmer - Sue Grey ... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh how things can bite you in the bum when your cover-up is exposed!!!
Don't forget she had a secret meeting with the buffoon and got away with it.
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 2:13 pm
Don't forget she had a secret meeting with the buffoon and got away with it.
'She' is not the one that will take any fallout. The public will see that Sir Soft is not as squeaky clean as he tries to portray :)
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 2:21 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 2:13 pm
Don't forget she had a secret meeting with the buffoon and got away with it.
'She' is not the one that will take any fallout. The public will see that Sir Soft is not as squeaky clean as he tries to portray :)
I'll wait and see what comes out of it. Innocent until proven guilty, unless the accusation is against Buffoon Boris. He's always guilty. :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 2:53 pm
I'll wait and see what comes out of it. Innocent until proven guilty, unless the accusation is against Buffoon Boris. He's always guilty. :)
Exactly ... the LL's will make sure Sir Soft won't be harmed regardless of his guilt ... see 'currygate' as an example
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 2:21 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 2:13 pm
Don't forget she had a secret meeting with the buffoon and got away with it.
'She' is not the one that will take any fallout. The public will see that Sir Soft is not as squeaky clean as he tries to portray :)
Sue Gray's refusing to cooperate with the investigation and failed to give evidence. Don't ask me why but Jon Craig said it was expected to be damming for Gray.
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There are two investigations:

- the one re taking a new job & fully co-operating as per normal
- the other was launched by the cabinet office after she left the civil service and appears to have no legal or procedural basis, hence refusal to co-operate, e.g. who would resolve any dispute on findings etc etc

Reading between the lines it looks like a hatchet job but because of her refusal to co-operate they can't publish. Sounds like she got some good legal advice or at least head well screwed on.

A lot easier to get a job as chairman of the BBC than take a job advising labour if you ask me.
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sionascaig wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 10:53 pm
There are two investigations:

- the one re taking a new job & fully co-operating as per normal
- the other was launched by the cabinet office after she left the civil service and appears to have no legal or procedural basis, hence refusal to co-operate, e.g. who would resolve any dispute on findings etc etc

Reading between the lines it looks like a hatchet job but because of her refusal to co-operate they can't publish. Sounds like she got some good legal advice or at least head well screwed on.

A lot easier to get a job as chairman of the BBC than take a job advising labour if you ask me.
The ACOBA will make a recommendation. Both Sue Grayling and Labour have said they will abide by their findings and any recommendations. There is no legal basis for them to do so but would look bad if they didn’t.

Worst that would happen is that they advise she shouldn’t take the job for maximum of 2 years.

Again, her and Labour can ignore if they wish too as no legal grounds for ACOBA to enforce under the current law.
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Will Starmer promise to resign if the committee find any wrongdoing on his part? :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed May 03, 2023 1:34 am
Will Starmer promise to resign if the committee find any wrongdoing on his part? :)
Who is Will Starmer? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Tue May 02, 2023 9:21 pm
Sue Gray's refusing to cooperate with the investigation and failed to give evidence. Don't ask me why but Jon Craig said it was expected to be damming for Gray.
So the investigator is refusing to be investigated! ... Fishy. Wonder what she would have said if someone refused to cooperate with her investigation? Her mindset seems to be a perfect fit with Sir Soft's.
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed May 03, 2023 7:20 am
Derek27 wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 9:21 pm
Sue Gray's refusing to cooperate with the investigation and failed to give evidence. Don't ask me why but Jon Craig said it was expected to be damming for Gray.
So the investigator is refusing to be investigated! ... Fishy. Wonder what she would have said if someone refused to cooperate with her investigation? Her mindset seems to be a perfect fit with Sir Soft's.
sionascaig explained the reasons, sounds good to me. :)
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Starmer: Does the prime minister know how many mortgage payers are paying higher rates since the Tory party crashed the economy? :lol:

It will take the average person 4 years to save the extra £9,000 deposits have gone up. That's the annual cost of heating the PM's swimming pool. :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed May 03, 2023 12:07 pm
Starmer: Does the prime minister know how many mortgage payers are paying higher rates since the Tory party crashed the economy? :lol:
The snowflakes of today should stop moaning. They would blame the government if they got hit by lightning for fuck sake. They need to grow a pair, although they probably cant as they not sure what they have down below.

In 1981 mortgage rates hit 18.45%. I was 12 at the time but don't remember my parents moaning about it and I still got my fish fingers on a Friday, so didn't care. :lol:
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Archery1969 wrote:
Wed May 03, 2023 1:00 pm


The snowflakes of today should stop moaning. They would blame the government if they got hit by lightning for fuck sake. They need to grow a pair, although they probably cant as they not sure what they have down below.

In 1981 mortgage rates hit 18.45%. I was 12 at the time but don't remember my parents moaning about it and I still got my fish fingers on a Friday, so didn't care. :lol:
For someone who dislikes snowflakes, you sure do a lot of moaning. Grow a pair! :lol:
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