I will probably get shouted at but i propose that key workers have December 2020 and January 2021 salary tax free as a way of saying thankyou. Most people are skint for those 2 months and it would be nice for them to not have to worry for that period. Or we can just say thankyou and give them a bluepeter badge.greenmark wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 7:31 pmI don't like the pair, Cummings/Johnson and their politics, but do think the media have gone berserk on this.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 7:16 pmI believe he was looking at DC who was holding up cards of how to reply to the questions....ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 5:46 pm
Interesting to see how he struggles in a situation where he can't blatantly lie. Thankfully these committees follow HoC conventions unlike the random questions from journos. Also interesting body language with his repeated glances at the door, a std poker tell when someone wishes they weren't in a situation.
The opposition are also now reverting to type after a period national unity.
I just hope they are right and that all the sacrifice will be rewarded by an early escape from this.
And although tomorrow is due to be the last 'clap for key-workers' we must do something for these people in the long-term.
I'd support a levy specifically to reward keyworkers.
Or do people think its up to the individual organisations?
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I propose a clap for Cummings. The poor bloke has been the subject of the biggest witch hunt in Britain since the 17th century.
People who make statements without explaining the reason behind them are really just believing what they want to. Instead of mindlessly defending DC and attacking his accusers, try explaining why a 60 mile drive to test his eyesight was necessary, in the context of stay at home unless it's absolutely necessary. If you can't, you can't call it a witch hunt or seriously argue that he done nothing wrong.superfrank wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:10 pmI propose a clap for Cummings. The poor bloke has been the subject of the biggest witch hunt in Britain since the 17th century.
I'd love to hear comments regards the individuals that broke lockdown and sacrificed their posts for the sake of transparancy and decency (Dr Catherine Calderwood): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52177171 and the gov's own Neil Ferguson: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... -breaking/Derek27 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:26 pmPeople who make statements without explaining the reason behind them are really just believing what they want to. Instead of mindlessly defending DC and attacking his accusers, try explaining why a 60 mile drive to test his eyesight was necessary, in the context of stay at home unless it's absolutely necessary. If you can't, you can't call it a witch hunt or seriously argue that he done nothing wrong.superfrank wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:10 pmI propose a clap for Cummings. The poor bloke has been the subject of the biggest witch hunt in Britain since the 17th century.
There was an *interesting* map produced that displayed how far both had *strayed* from their registered address compared to the durham fiasco... anyway, this is a battle that has no winners.
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ALC VOL.
6.0%
NEW ENGLAND IPA
Short sighted beer for tall stories. Our New England, Old School IPA is locked down and loaded.
Dry-hopped for a juicy hit with pineapple, mango and hint of zesty lime.
All profits will go to funding our production of free sanitiser for the NHS & Health Care Charities.
https://www.brewdog.com/uk/barnard-castle-eye-test
Dry-hopped for a juicy hit with pineapple, mango and hint of zesty lime and no humble pie!!sionascaig wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:45 pmBARNARD CASTLE EYE TEST
ALC VOL.
6.0%
NEW ENGLAND IPA
Short sighted beer for tall stories. Our New England, Old School IPA is locked down and loaded.
Dry-hopped for a juicy hit with pineapple, mango and hint of zesty lime.
All profits will go to funding our production of free sanitiser for the NHS & Health Care Charities.
https://www.brewdog.com/uk/barnard-castle-eye-test
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He broke no laws and going for a drive during lockdown is hardly the crime of the century is it?!Derek27 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:26 pmPeople who make statements without explaining the reason behind them are really just believing what they want to. Instead of mindlessly defending DC and attacking his accusers, try explaining why a 60 mile drive to test his eyesight was necessary, in the context of stay at home unless it's absolutely necessary. If you can't, you can't call it a witch hunt or seriously argue that he done nothing wrong.
He and his family have been subjected to sustained harassment and abuse by the mob and the MSM.
greenmark has the same political leanings as you, but at least he has the grace to realise that the treatment of Cummings is OTT.
see my post above - would love to hear your thinking on those two honourable individuals who may also have *broke no laws* based on your conviction and interpretation!?superfrank wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:48 pmHe broke no laws and going for a drive during lockdown is hardly the crime of the century is it?!Derek27 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:26 pmPeople who make statements without explaining the reason behind them are really just believing what they want to. Instead of mindlessly defending DC and attacking his accusers, try explaining why a 60 mile drive to test his eyesight was necessary, in the context of stay at home unless it's absolutely necessary. If you can't, you can't call it a witch hunt or seriously argue that he done nothing wrong.
He and his family have been subjected to sustained harassment and abuse by the mob and the MSM.
greenmark has the same political leanings as you, but at least he has the grace to realise that the treatment of Cummings is OTT.
tbh -save it, off to bed to watch Killing Eve (produced and mainly acted by women - ouch!!)
He hasn't been accused of breaking laws (although I haven't read the regs so I wouldn't have an opinion). He's accused of being a flipping liar and hypocrite and breaking his own guidelines while other people with children in similar circumstances get fined. I presume even you realise that he was lying about his reasons for driving. If you treat people like shit and lie to them, you can expect to get treated like shit. I'm sure he will eventually go and BJ will be permanently damaged by the fiasco.superfrank wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:48 pmHe broke no laws and going for a drive during lockdown is hardly the crime of the century is it?!Derek27 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:26 pmPeople who make statements without explaining the reason behind them are really just believing what they want to. Instead of mindlessly defending DC and attacking his accusers, try explaining why a 60 mile drive to test his eyesight was necessary, in the context of stay at home unless it's absolutely necessary. If you can't, you can't call it a witch hunt or seriously argue that he done nothing wrong.
He and his family have been subjected to sustained harassment and abuse by the mob and the MSM.
greenmark has the same political leanings as you, but at least he has the grace to realise that the treatment of Cummings is OTT.
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I obviously don't know for sure, but I suspect you're right that the car journey excuse was a lie. But even if it was it's not important. So what if he went for a drive to see a castle on his wife's birthday? Who cares ffs? He didn't endanger anyone. It's just spurious justification to try to get him sacked by those with a politically-motivated axe to grind, like, er, arch-Remainer Emily Maitlis...
The BBC has reprimanded Emily Maitlis and admitted she broke impartiality rules with her ridiculously partisan opening monologue on Tuesday's Newsnight.
The clip is shared (and unsurprisingly celebrated) here by David Lammy... https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1 ... 3829549057.
The BBC has reprimanded Emily Maitlis and admitted she broke impartiality rules with her ridiculously partisan opening monologue on Tuesday's Newsnight.
The clip is shared (and unsurprisingly celebrated) here by David Lammy... https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1 ... 3829549057.
Who cares? Over half the nation including people who weren't allowed to bury their loved ones because a certain selfish hypocrite imposed rules to prevent them, who then excuses himself to go a castle on his wife's birthday. If you struggle to understand why that makes people angry you must have very limited understanding!superfrank wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 11:32 pmI obviously don't know for sure, but I suspect you're right that the car journey excuse was a lie. But even if it was it's not important. So what if he went for a drive to see a castle on his wife's birthday? Who cares ffs? He didn't endanger anyone. It's just spurious justification to try to get him sacked by those with a politically-motivated axe to grind, like, er, arch-Remainer Emily Maitlis...
The BBC has reprimanded Emily Maitlis and admitted she broke impartiality rules with her ridiculously partisan opening monologue on Tuesday's Newsnight.
The clip is shared (and unsurprisingly celebrated) here by David Lammy... https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1 ... 3829549057.
You think he didn't endanger anyone? When somebody dies of Covid19 there's no way of knowing where it was contracted so when people act irresponsibility there's no way of knowing how many people will unnecessarily get infected unwittingly. Cummings has undone all the work and effort of the scientific advisors and a lot of people will be less willing to follow the rules, or perhaps will follow them as loosely as Cummings.
You gotta admit though, your mate Dominic is now a laughing stock, he is the national joke. You can't call it a witch hunt, it was his decision and stupidly to mention the eye test, nobody forced that on him.
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If the bloke you voted for, Corbyn, was now PM and his chief advisor had done exactly the same as Cummings you'd have a completely different opinion of the man. I guarantee it.
Ditch leftism Derek, it's a proven failure and only makes fools of its followers. It's for students and the weak-willed.
Ditch leftism Derek, it's a proven failure and only makes fools of its followers. It's for students and the weak-willed.
I call myself a socialist, and I can't ditch caring about people. Trading and betting is all about putting money, emotions and cognitive biases aside and taking a more mathematical view of the situation. Politics is much the same, when you make a cockup and say something unbelievably stupid, when you've had three days to plan what you're going to say, you've got to go - doesn't matter whether I support the party or not, nobody can take the 'stay at home' message from BJ seriously anymore. I came up with better excuses when I was called up in front of the headmaster with no notice! https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/24/stay-hom ... -12751002/superfrank wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 12:37 amIf the bloke you voted for, Corbyn, was now PM and his chief advisor had done exactly the same as Cummings you'd have a completely different opinion of the man. I guarantee it.
Ditch leftism Derek, it's a proven failure and only makes fools of its followers. It's for students and the weak-willed.
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If you used the smart, logical side of your brain for politics, as you do for trading, you’d be more of a libertarian than a socialist.
People thrive when they are free, not when they have authoritarians deciding what’s best for them and how they should live their lives.
Cummings did what he thought was best for his family and decided not to run it by the state first. Good for him.
People thrive when they are free, not when they have authoritarians deciding what’s best for them and how they should live their lives.
Cummings did what he thought was best for his family and decided not to run it by the state first. Good for him.
