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sionascaig
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greenmark wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:31 pm
Vaz0202 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:23 pm
Sunak really does have a mountain to climb and he doesn’t strike me as a fighter. Has he really ever needed to fight for anything?
But that's just cobblers. Raise wages to match inflation? I mean Durrrrrr!!!!!
I know and average executive pay rise running at over 20% atm... At least thats > inflation so should be ok,,,
Archery1969
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A few points from me...

- It was widely accepted that the UK furlough scheme was one of the most generous in the world by population. of course some fell through the cracks, mostly self-employed with no accounts. Not much you could have done there as it would have potentially opened the system up to even more fraud. The fraud is estimated at £17 billion and counting. But the total cost to the UK was around £473 billion. That's a huge sum of money and the interest payments are killing us. Well, not me but you get the picture. Not sure what else Sunak could have done here, maybe borrowed it from the Bank of England at 0% and repay the capital loan over 10 years. That sounds good but what happens if something like that happens again ?

- It seems every public sector worker now wants a pay rise of 10%. Come on, get real, that would add another £22 billion to the national debt. Where does it end ?

- Train drivers want 9%. The average salary is £54,000. Basically, in my opinion, go fcuk yourselves. I would issue 7 year foreign work permits and make the current employees redundant if they refused 5%. Which I believe is the current offer. Its worth noting that train drivers in France on average earn £25,000 per year. I bet they would jump at £54,000, would they not ?

- Soldiers cant strike, get the worst package of all public sector workers unless they progress through the ranks. Do they moan about it, probably but they still join up. Maybe other public sector workers should think about that.

- NHS. Its too big and a financial drain on the public purse. It will only get worse. Time for a total rethink. Free for children, retired, those on benefits and those earning less than £30,000 per year (or whatever is considered a sensible amount). Everyone else MUST take out private health care policy. Think mine was £85 per month a few years back but covered dental too. Think its compulsory is places like Australia and called medicare or something.

- State pension. To be phased out for most. As above, depending on circumstances, by law you MUST have a private pension. Pension to be raised from £179 to £250 per week before phase out. No state pension after 2050. Maybe still needed for those who couldn't work for at least 30 years of their life or if private pension pot is deemed to small or requires a top up.

- United Kingdom. Each country (England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland) to be given full devolution powers and in return remain part of the United Kingdom. They can raise and spend money as they see fit. All would contribute into a national fund to support areas such as defense and infrastructure projects. In return, no more talk of becoming a separate entity. Each country to be given a vote on such an idea. If the answer is fcuk off then total UK debt to be split into 4 using barnet or such formulae and each country sent the debt bill. Failure to repay debt in agreed manner would result in Bank of England issing international debt notices.

- Defense spending rises to 3% of joint national GDP by 2028.

- Working week cut to 4 days per week but not mandatory.

Think I might have some leaflets put together and start handing them out. Archery for PM or something. :D
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The Silk Run
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Very well penned Archie, your a front runner. In fact their are a few forum members who present as capable of running for Prime Minister.
I don't like Risky SUNAK, or trust him. But warming to Madame TRUSS who shoots from the shoulder, and not the hip ;)
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The Silk Run wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:35 pm
Very well penned Archie, your a front runner. In fact their are a few forum members who present as capable of running for Prime Minister.
I don't like Risky SUNAK, or trust him. But warming to Madame TRUSS who shoots from the shoulder, and not the hip ;)
:D
Vaz0202
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I’m going to launch my manifesto tomorrow from a flotilla in the Thames.
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The Silk Run wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:35 pm
Very well penned Archie, your a front runner. In fact their are a few forum members who present as capable of running for Prime Minister.
I don't like Risky SUNAK, or trust him. But warming to Madame TRUSS who shoots from the shoulder, and not the hip ;)
+1

Mind you...Archery has some stiff competition.

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Archery1969
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:01 am
The Silk Run wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:35 pm
Very well penned Archie, your a front runner. In fact their are a few forum members who present as capable of running for Prime Minister.
I don't like Risky SUNAK, or trust him. But warming to Madame TRUSS who shoots from the shoulder, and not the hip ;)
+1

Mind you...Archery has some stiff competition.


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Derek27
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:01 am
The Silk Run wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:35 pm
Very well penned Archie, your a front runner. In fact their are a few forum members who present as capable of running for Prime Minister.
I don't like Risky SUNAK, or trust him. But warming to Madame TRUSS who shoots from the shoulder, and not the hip ;)
+1

Mind you...Archery has some stiff competition.


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That was Archery!
Emmson
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The scrutiny and pressure will be immense, Tories on course to make a very, very bad mistake.

https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1550197765904515074
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Derek27
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Emmson wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:52 pm
The scrutiny and pressure will be immense, Tories on course to make a very, very bad mistake.

https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1550197765904515074
Maybe she will be an adequate replacement for Johnson. Humour without the lying. :D
Archery1969
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If you listened to Martin Lewis on the Peston show the other night then I don’t think it matters who the next PM or Government is. He reckons the country will have a serious financial shock from October onwards.
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Derek27
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:54 pm
If you listened to Martin Lewis on the Peston show the other night then I don’t think it matters who the next PM or Government is. He reckons the country will have a serious financial shock from October onwards.
It does matter because the next PM and government will absorb all the blame. They can't blame everything on covid, war, a serious financial shock, it's pretty much the norm. :D
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Derek27
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It's brave of Johnson to watch soldiers on the training field. One of them might accidentally shoot him. :D
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:17 pm
It's brave of Johnson to watch soldiers on the training field. One of them might accidentally shoot him. :D
It was rather worrying someone let him chuck a live hand grenade. I hope Gove wasn't there. :lol:
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:23 pm
It was rather worrying someone let him chuck a live hand grenade. I hope Gove wasn't there. :lol:
I'd say anyone around him was shitting it in case he did a job like Mexicans firing in the air at weddings and just threw it straight up in the air! :?
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