
UK General Election 2024 (or 25)
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With hindsight, what they should have done is transfer them to the nightingale hospitals. Not the best care but the UK does not have the capacity to look after more than 2% of the population and nor should it. Unfortunately, everything comes down to cost, always has and always will. Like it or not, people are expendable. That won’t change regardless of government in power. Your job is to work, pay your taxes, shut up and get on with it.greenmark wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:55 pmWas it not the case that seemingly dischargeable NHS patients were at greater risk in a hospital than a care home?firlandsfarm wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:58 pmIf they were showing symptoms rhey should have been eligible to stay in the hospital, if not then why detain them? I said 'eligible' because again what do you do if you don't have enough beds to keep everyone in the hospital?sionascaig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:08 am
I think the main issue was not testing them before the move into care homes but that may have been an NHS guidance issue / failure rather than specifically MH's fault.
That (with hindsight) proved to be utterly incorrect. Care homes are private enterprises. The owners don't give a shit about their clients or employees.
It seems it wasn't MH sending back into care homes from the NHS tht was the issue. The issue is care homes are run by bastards.
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I think I know what you are saying but no business makes a profit from killing it's customers intentional or otherwise! And there is no alternative to private nursing homes. Older people who have to go to nursing homes are effectively taxed at over £1,000 pw in having to pay for their own care if the LA don't help.greenmark wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:55 pmWas it not the case that seemingly dischargeable NHS patients were at greater risk in a hospital than a care home?firlandsfarm wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:58 pmIf they were showing symptoms rhey should have been eligible to stay in the hospital, if not then why detain them? I said 'eligible' because again what do you do if you don't have enough beds to keep everyone in the hospital?sionascaig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:08 am
I think the main issue was not testing them before the move into care homes but that may have been an NHS guidance issue / failure rather than specifically MH's fault.
That (with hindsight) proved to be utterly incorrect. Care homes are private enterprises. The owners don't give a shit about their clients or employees.
It seems it wasn't MH sending back into care homes from the NHS tht was the issue. The issue is care homes are run by bastards.
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Agreed.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:56 pmWith hindsight, what they should have done is transfer them to the nightingale hospitals.
Don't forget to replicate!Archery1969 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:56 pmYour job is to work, pay your taxes, shut up and get on with it.

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One thing I hate seeing in big cities but never see mentioned is hostile architecture, especially when disguised as art. The concept of it is messed up on too many levels.
All symptoms of a failed society. What should be the greatest cities on Earth are the biggest hostile shitholes.
Possibly the greatest post I've seen on this forum.Kai wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:33 pmOne thing I hate seeing in big cities but never see mentioned is hostile architecture, especially when disguised as art. The concept of it is messed up on too many levels.
All symptoms of a failed society. What should be the greatest cities on Earth are the biggest hostile shitholes.
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I'm united with you their G. What a horrible world we live in ....greenmark wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 6:05 pmPossibly the greatest post I've seen on this forum.Kai wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:33 pmOne thing I hate seeing in big cities but never see mentioned is hostile architecture, especially when disguised as art. The concept of it is messed up on too many levels.
All symptoms of a failed society. What should be the greatest cities on Earth are the biggest hostile shitholes.
Here's an example. I would ask what process for a large expensive building could result in such a monstrosity?The Silk Run wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:25 pmI'm united with you their G. What a horrible world we live in ....greenmark wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 6:05 pmPossibly the greatest post I've seen on this forum.Kai wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:33 pm
One thing I hate seeing in big cities but never see mentioned is hostile architecture, especially when disguised as art. The concept of it is messed up on too many levels.
All symptoms of a failed society. What should be the greatest cities on Earth are the biggest hostile shitholes.
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They should make all Ministers travel by Dinghy, and when they arrive at their final destination to stay in a Tent.
And isn't it ironic that most of these Ministers are foreigners !!! Even the PM.