Reality

[Halliday]

For as much as I like Pete.I think he is delusional. Pete, my friend, you
really need to get real. Trading before the race is flipping crazy! Yep if
you have a betting bank of £200,000 then fine. But we don't have. So
tell us how you make your money and I'll tell you hoI made nearly
£4000 yesterday!!

Please don't get me started on Oliver123 , if you have ever read his previous posts or watched his ludicrous " sniping " videos on YouTube and DailyMotion you'd understand

Yet another poster who probably does need help and support , but perhaps if he didn't spout so much rubbish we might be more understanding

As I have said before there are several posters on here ( this thread included) who contradict themselves at every turn, and expect you to treat their opinions seriously and believe that could ever make a profit .. or have changed

Certainly 2 on this thread that need the dreaded Timeform squiggle as a warning to new posters .. I'm off before I go "of on one " Grrr !!

Stop being a bully mate. You feel the need to critsce everyone. If you want to go off on one. Send me a private message. I will hapilly oblige to listen.
Warning to new posters. Be really carefull what you say there is a suspicious police offier who spend his afternoon going through everyone of your posts... just to oppose you.

Get a grip please. Its a forum, were all learning, we all have different persoaniltys. By all measn oppose opinions. But yes its probably best if you go before you spend the rest of your day looking through Oliver123 previous posts and account history.

Get back to trading Betfair Site is up and running .. your welcome to private message me if you feel aggrieved , as long as you don't resort to threats and abuse have you have done with several posters on here . In your various guises.

Right back to the ladder !!

[SeaHorseRacing]

Theres a difference from defendig your position or attacking. All i have ever done is defend myself. Wrong or right. Just becasue Oscar123 has done things doesnt make it right to humilate. Who cares what hes done on youtube. Make as many points about his topic. Even I commented to say whats the pont on the topic, but i wont ridicule someone. Look its clearly obvious hes trying to make the trading work. I know how stressfull this game can be. were all different and we all behave differntly.

Oscar123. If you want to mak the pre race work, seek proffesional advice. Invest your money there.

Peace.

[oscar123]

Will do, Sea Horse Racing. Thanks for the advice!

[to75ne]

horsey, you are confusing your olivers and oscars

[SeaHorseRacing]

Didnt realise there so similar.

[oliver123]

Right, these days I now set up an LTF trade before the start of the race. I also set up anything up to £800 snipe bet if the LTD is going against me. I shall repeat, to make any decent money trading before the start of the race, you'll need a flipping very large Betfair account! As of this afternoon (I am already up £515.00) I am making this money with a current bank of £2,500. I think enough said, don't you?

I do, however, apologize to the forum for my initial comments on this thread. I actually have huge respect for Peter, and this being from one who began on Betfair in the year 2006!! Laying the field/sniping is something you need to experiment with on demo and then take it from there. Having said that, there are races, especially during the summer flat season when this strategy would not work!

[Dallas]

You dont need a large bank to trade pre-race its all about how you use it and generally just knowing what your doing,
https://www.betangel.com/blog_wp/2016/1 ... caling-up/

[Euler]

I agree, it's a myth that you need a large bank. In fact I'd say you would do better with a small one. Large stakes are a real burden.

[oliver123]

Large stakes are only a burden if you don't have the money. Fact is, I have the money!! Sunday, 5 March, Betfair profit as of 17:35, £988.38!
Will say again, play in running, same goes for football or any other sport. But always remember, the quickest way to make money is on racing!! Happy days!!

[spreadbetting]

Right, these days I now set up an LTF trade before the start of the race. I also set up anything up to £800 snipe bet if the LTD is going against me. I shall repeat, to make any decent money trading before the start of the race, you'll need a flipping very large Betfair account! As of this afternoon (I am already up £515.00) I am making this money with a current bank of £2,500. I think enough said, don't you?

Post up a screenshot of your pnl after a month and people might start to find it all a bit more believable that you have the consistency with what yoou're doing so it's not a shot in the pan system. The internet is full of people bs'ing about their profits, I saw on cassini's website the 'bodger' is stating the reason he doesn't pay PC is because he only bets the losing half of his bets on Betfair

.

I've seen the same argument from most of the ebook vendors and internet trainers, anyone who's tried to offset their PC charges will know just how hard it is to recoup 10% let alone 50% of your PC by arbing outside Betfair.

[to75ne]

thank you for your wise words oh great sage

[Halliday]

Large stakes are only a burden if you don't have the money. Fact is, I have the money!! Sunday, 5 March, Betfair profit as of 17:35, £988.38!
Will say again, play in running, same goes for football or any other sport. But always remember, the quickest way to make money is on racing!! Happy days!!

Oliver123

Watched some of your sniping videos on YouTube and the one thing that stood out was how poor your knowledge seemed to me of horse racing. How with such little knowledge and by your own admission of losing money for eight years , how have you managed to turn the corner and make a profit ?

I'm afraid you appear to be another one of the " Walter Mitty " characters that pop up here every so often.could you explain how you achieved the £988.31 profit today .

I just don't understand why people almost boast about what they have achieved and then can't substantiate it.

you still have along with a few other high profile posters the dreaded Timeform squiggle .

Should you need any help understanding the basics of horse racing or help with your gambling please don't hesitate to private me

[xitian]

The internet is full of people bs'ing about their profits, I saw on cassini's website the 'bodger' is stating the reason he doesn't pay PC is because he only bets the losing half of his bets on Betfair

I've seen the same argument from most of the ebook vendors and internet trainers, anyone who's tried to offset their PC charges will know just how hard it is to recoup 10% let alone 50% of your PC by arbing outside Betfair.

What Hargraves is saying makes no sense whatsoever! If you know what side of your bet is going to win then why bother placing the bet for the side you're going to lose?! You're just chucking away money! Why would you voluntarily lose on Betfair? Perhaps that's your point, spreadbetting. Thought I'd just re-iterate what rubbish he is spouting.

Arbing when you know which side is going to lose is just stupidity, or otherwise simply talk to try and con the fool in the market.

I would encourage no one to trust screenshots either. There's no point. Here's a pic of my Betfair balance. No Photoshop was needed (other than to crop the picture). Took 10 seconds.

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People should learn to take what everyone says with a decent grain of sceptic salt, do their own research, and make their own decisions. I think unfortunately most people are looking for quick easy money and love to believe a story saying it's possible.

[SeaHorseRacing]

The internet is full of people bs'ing about their profits, I saw on cassini's website the 'bodger' is stating the reason he doesn't pay PC is because he only bets the losing half of his bets on Betfair

I've seen the same argument from most of the ebook vendors and internet trainers, anyone who's tried to offset their PC charges will know just how hard it is to recoup 10% let alone 50% of your PC by arbing outside Betfair.

What Hargraves is saying makes no sense whatsoever! If you know what side of your bet is going to win then why bother placing the bet for the side you're going to lose?! You're just chucking away money! Why would you voluntarily lose on Betfair? Perhaps that's your point, spreadbetting. Thought I'd just re-iterate what rubbish he is spouting.

Arbing when you know which side is going to lose is just stupidity, or otherwise simply talk to try and con the fool in the market.

I would encourage no one to trust screenshots either. There's no point. Here's a pic of my Betfair balance. No Photoshop was needed (other than to crop the picture). Took 10 seconds.


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People should learn to take what everyone says with a decent grain of sceptic salt, do their own research, and make their own decisions. I think unfortunately most people are looking for quick easy money and love to believe a story saying it's possible.

Can I get a loan please?

[ruthlessimon]

The internet is full of people bs'ing about their profits, I saw on cassini's website the 'bodger' is stating the reason he doesn't pay PC is because he only bets the losing half of his bets on Betfair

I've seen the same argument from most of the ebook vendors and internet trainers, anyone who's tried to offset their PC charges will know just how hard it is to recoup 10% let alone 50% of your PC by arbing outside Betfair.

What Hargraves is saying makes no sense whatsoever! If you know what side of your bet is going to win then why bother placing the bet for the side you're going to lose?! You're just chucking away money! Why would you voluntarily lose on Betfair? Perhaps that's your point, spreadbetting. Thought I'd just re-iterate what rubbish he is spouting.

Arbing when you know which side is going to lose is just stupidity, or otherwise simply talk to try and con the fool in the market.

I would encourage no one to trust screenshots either. There's no point. Here's a pic of my Betfair balance. No Photoshop was needed (other than to crop the picture). Took 10 seconds.


fake.png


People should learn to take what everyone says with a decent grain of sceptic salt, do their own research, and make their own decisions. I think unfortunately most people are looking for quick easy money and love to believe a story saying it's possible.

haha, love that post. hargreaves & butler have missed a trick!! #f12