Drifter/Steamer statistics

[GeorgeRuss]

The same you could say about the steamer. If it steams then it does it for a reason. Either its some sort of inside info or because the horse just looks so awesome

Still has to win the race which is much harder than losing a race

True, but rookie logic

I would want to be laying a steamer over backing a drifter all day long… opinions make markets I suppose, good luck with your automation

[Fugazi]

Wait for a retracement

Or you'll just catch a reversal

But the idea is upside > downside

I know what automation Im making this weekend

Just my universal rule of thumb as preoff trends go, from a manual POV, some of the trading examples I posted were exactly that

But even as a footy trader I'm not blind to the daily prerace opportunities, despite the trading windows there shortening

However, I do feel that order flow trading overall is slowly becoming a lost art

I suspect order flow just got harder as people squeezed the liquidity from it as knowledge and tools improved

Markets will always be inefficient so just means a change in strategy needed. I'm managing about £30 a day preoff with automation but struggling to scale any further. I suspect the bigger money now might be inplay where the market just cant be efficient as robots can't mechanically respond to what is being seen on the TV

[GeorgeRuss]

I know what automation Im making this weekend

Just my universal rule of thumb as preoff trends go, from a manual POV, some of the trading examples I posted were exactly that

But even as a footy trader I'm not blind to the daily prerace opportunities, despite the trading windows there shortening

However, I do feel that order flow trading overall is slowly becoming a lost art

I suspect order flow just got harder as people squeezed the liquidity from it as knowledge and tools improved

Markets will always be inefficient so just means a change in strategy needed. I'm managing about £30 a day preoff with automation but struggling to scale any further. I suspect the bigger money now might be inplay where the market just cant be efficient as robots can't mechanically respond to what is being seen on the TV

The auto boys the ones killing it in-play. LinusP and PeterLe spring to mind from this forum straight away.

[Fugazi]

Just my universal rule of thumb as preoff trends go, from a manual POV, some of the trading examples I posted were exactly that

But even as a footy trader I'm not blind to the daily prerace opportunities, despite the trading windows there shortening

However, I do feel that order flow trading overall is slowly becoming a lost art

I suspect order flow just got harder as people squeezed the liquidity from it as knowledge and tools improved

Markets will always be inefficient so just means a change in strategy needed. I'm managing about £30 a day preoff with automation but struggling to scale any further. I suspect the bigger money now might be inplay where the market just cant be efficient as robots can't mechanically respond to what is being seen on the TV

The auto boys the ones killing it in-play. LinusP and PeterLe spring to mind from this forum straight away.

Definitely gonna trawl their post history

[ForFolksSake]

I suspect order flow just got harder as people squeezed the liquidity from it as knowledge and tools improved

Markets will always be inefficient so just means a change in strategy needed. I'm managing about £30 a day preoff with automation but struggling to scale any further. I suspect the bigger money now might be inplay where the market just cant be efficient as robots can't mechanically respond to what is being seen on the TV

The auto boys the ones killing it in-play. LinusP and PeterLe spring to mind from this forum straight away.

Definitely gonna trawl their post history

It could be your Golden Move

[GeorgeRuss]

I suspect order flow just got harder as people squeezed the liquidity from it as knowledge and tools improved

Markets will always be inefficient so just means a change in strategy needed. I'm managing about £30 a day preoff with automation but struggling to scale any further. I suspect the bigger money now might be inplay where the market just cant be efficient as robots can't mechanically respond to what is being seen on the TV

The auto boys the ones killing it in-play. LinusP and PeterLe spring to mind from this forum straight away.

Definitely gonna trawl their post history

100% recommend!

[Kai]

I suspect order flow just got harder as people squeezed the liquidity from it as knowledge and tools improved

Sadly money's slowly drying up, give any decent trader an actual liquid market and he should never lose

But good luck finding liquid markets in 2024, better to look at inplay instead

Only really cricket remains S tier market, you can barely know what's going on and still do better

[firlandsfarm]

Could you not jump on a steamer after it steams say 10 ticks, anticipating it probably steams another 5+ ticks?

Yes but it could also revert to mean!

[Fugazi]

Could you not jump on a steamer after it steams say 10 ticks, anticipating it probably steams another 5+ ticks?

Yes but it could also revert to mean!

I guess thats the real question. Is it 50/50 whether it goes up or down at that point.. OR if youve steamed x ticks, is it statistically more likely to steam another x ticks?