Excuses, Excuses, Excuses

[greenmark]

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Verbal abuse = Caution at worse.
Physical abuse = HMP.

What was that saying “sticks and stones but names will never hurt me”. The society snowflakes have obviously become very weak since I was at school in the 1980s.

Most of the social media stuff will be people who had a few sherbets and posting s@ite, that's not a criminal offence in my eyes never mind jail.

Plus what happens in a few years time with AI anticipating what you’re going to type on forums. It might completely get it wrong. Same as driverless cars, who is actually to blame if something goes wrong etc. it’s all going to end in a nightmare for lawyers and the court system.

“I didn’t type that. But it came from your IP Sir, wasn’t me, go back and check AI that forum is using Judge”

Nghtmare for lawyers? I think you mean kerching! for lawyers.
They get well paid while they argue.

[Archery1969]

Most of the social media stuff will be people who had a few sherbets and posting s@ite, that's not a criminal offence in my eyes never mind jail.

Plus what happens in a few years time with AI anticipating what you’re going to type on forums. It might completely get it wrong. Same as driverless cars, who is actually to blame if something goes wrong etc. it’s all going to end in a nightmare for lawyers and the court system.

“I didn’t type that. But it came from your IP Sir, wasn’t me, go back and check AI that forum is using Judge”

Nghtmare for lawyers? I think you mean kerching! for lawyers.
They get well paid while they argue.

True plus insurance lawyers saying “You were sitting in the car when it crashed. But it’s driverless, I never touched the steering wheel, breaks or accelerator. Don’t matter, it’s your car Sir”

[Archery1969]

Plus what happens in a few years time with AI anticipating what you’re going to type on forums. It might completely get it wrong. Same as driverless cars, who is actually to blame if something goes wrong etc. it’s all going to end in a nightmare for lawyers and the court system.

“I didn’t type that. But it came from your IP Sir, wasn’t me, go back and check AI that forum is using Judge”

Nghtmare for lawyers? I think you mean kerching! for lawyers.
They get well paid while they argue.

True plus insurance lawyers saying “You were sitting in the car when it crashed. But it’s driverless, I never touched the steering wheel, breaks or accelerator. Don’t matter, it’s your car Sir”

Who the gell would buy one ?

[greenmark]

I think the title of this thread could easily be converted to 14 years, 14 years, 14 years.
I'll criticise Labour and have. But let's not forget how we got in this mess.

[Emmson]

[Archery1969]

I think the title of this thread could easily be converted to 14 years, 14 years, 14 years.
I'll criticise Labour and have. But let's not forget how we got in this mess.

True but didn’t Labour leave a note saying there was no money the last time they were in power ?

But, when was the last time the UK had a budget surplus, think it was 2000/2001 ?

[Archery1969]

O dear O dear….

An 18-year-old man jailed for smashing a restaurant window during the summer riots is to be freed after successfully appealing against his sentence.

Dylan Willis, 18, who admitted violent disorder after repeatedly smashing a Middlesbrough restaurant window with a brick, had his 14 month sentence suspended for two years by Court of Appeal judges

Apparently there are a further 467 cases on appeal to the high court for excessive sentences.

Someone better start building more prisons.

[Derek27]

O dear O dear….

An 18-year-old man jailed for smashing a restaurant window during the summer riots is to be freed after successfully appealing against his sentence.

Dylan Willis, 18, who admitted violent disorder after repeatedly smashing a Middlesbrough restaurant window with a brick, had his 14 month sentence suspended for two years by Court of Appeal judges

Apparently there are a further 467 cases on appeal to the high court for excessive sentences.

Someone better start building more prisons.

... and more restaurant windows!

[greenmark]

I think the title of this thread could easily be converted to 14 years, 14 years, 14 years.
I'll criticise Labour and have. But let's not forget how we got in this mess.

True but didn’t Labour leave a note saying there was no money the last time they were in power ?

But, when was the last time the UK had a budget surplus, think it was 2000/2001 ?

Indeed. All the more reason to leave govt with the economy in better shape.....and the Tories (the party of economic prosperity) left us worse off. Forget covid, Ukraine. The Tories have wrecked this country. It was all "nowt to do with us. Roll back regulation and the market will provide".
Absolute total nonsense that the last 14 years has proved. The Tories couldn't run a p**s up in a brewery.

[sionascaig]

Absolute total nonsense that the last 14 years has proved. The Tories couldn't run a p**s up in a brewery.

They managed a few in Downing St during lockdown though...

I see Party Marty just got a knighthood too !!!

[Archery1969]

I think the title of this thread could easily be converted to 14 years, 14 years, 14 years.
I'll criticise Labour and have. But let's not forget how we got in this mess.

True but didn’t Labour leave a note saying there was no money the last time they were in power ?

But, when was the last time the UK had a budget surplus, think it was 2000/2001 ?

Indeed. All the more reason to leave govt with the economy in better shape.....and the Tories (the party of economic prosperity) left us worse off. Forget covid, Ukraine. The Tories have wrecked this country. It was all "nowt to do with us. Roll back regulation and the market will provide".
Absolute total nonsense that the last 14 years has proved. The Tories couldn't run a p**s up in a brewery.

Are people forgetting COVID which the government of the day spent £360 billion on, that’s the real number regardless of bribes, wastage and fraud. Include all those then it’s £410 billion.

That’s a large amount, which was borrowed, had to be paid back at 3.4%.

With those numbers then the £22 billion black hole or revised down one of £9.6 billion by the OBR seems to be chicken feed in comparison.

Strange thing is Mr Blair (Labour) is stated on record saying he wouldn’t have paid furlough at 80% but left it upto HMRC to determine how much each household needed.

I know full well greenmark you don’t care about money owed by the government but your can’t borrow it at 0% interest and eventually you have to pay the capital back.

Reeves has now borrowed a further £70 Billion on top and hoping/preying the UK economy grows at a rate it has never done since pre 1900.

The UK is now in a massive gamble at the poker table. What’s worse is that Mr Orange might inadvertently seriously damage the UK economy further.

People are not going to feel richer during this parliament, the next one or even the one after that.

Let’s all hope there isn’t another pandemic and/or war affecting the UK.

I remember when my NatWest Piggy Bank was empty. My Dad said ‘Tough’, go get a paper round or Saturday morning job.

It’s the same with government public finances, if you can’t afford it, then don’t do it otherwise your saddling future generations with debt which they had no say in.

Anyway, all good, peace.

[Michael5482]

O dear O dear….

An 18-year-old man jailed for smashing a restaurant window during the summer riots is to be freed after successfully appealing against his sentence.

Dylan Willis, 18, who admitted violent disorder after repeatedly smashing a Middlesbrough restaurant window with a brick, had his 14 month sentence suspended for two years by Court of Appeal judges

Apparently there are a further 467 cases on appeal to the high court for excessive sentences.

Someone better start building more prisons.

There's been complaints locally and in articles in the local papers that he shouldn't have been jailed in the 1st place. The lad has autism and a few other issues which was pointed at the time of the sentence, the judge completely ignored it all and sent him straight to jail.

I hope him and his family sue the authorities who appear to have completely ignored sentencing guidelines for reasons they're yet to explain. Does make you wonder how many of these sentences are politicly motived and influenced by Starmer and Labour.

[Archery1969]

O dear O dear….

An 18-year-old man jailed for smashing a restaurant window during the summer riots is to be freed after successfully appealing against his sentence.

Dylan Willis, 18, who admitted violent disorder after repeatedly smashing a Middlesbrough restaurant window with a brick, had his 14 month sentence suspended for two years by Court of Appeal judges

Apparently there are a further 467 cases on appeal to the high court for excessive sentences.

Someone better start building more prisons.

There's been complaints locally and in articles in the local papers that he shouldn't have been jailed in the 1st place. The lad has autism and a few other issues which was pointed at the time of the sentence, the judge completely ignored it all and sent him straight to jail.

I hope him and his family sue the authorities who appear to have completely ignored sentencing guidelines for reasons they're yet to explain. Does make you wonder how many of these sentences are politicly motived and influenced by Starmer and Labour.

While I not condoning the violence in any way whatsoever. To some extent the government had to take a hard stance even if a high number of these convictions are eventually reduced or overturned.

Yes, some should go away to HMP but by no way all of them.

I was reading that a gang of youths in Kent have been terrorising the place by shop lifting on a scale not because they hungry or homeless. But selling stolen property on in pubs. If true, then they should be going to HMP for along time and people typing in their keyboards should not.

Prison should be for sexual abuse or violence in all forms. Those they don’t meet the threshold should be made to do community service.

You can’t lock up everyone you don’t agree with. Well you can but the UK has the highest prison ratio per population than anywhere else in Europe. That’s fine, if you can afford to do it. The UK can’t and I imagine nobody wants a prison in their community, so don’t build new ones. Change the sentencing laws.

[sionascaig]

Prison should be for sexual abuse or violence in all forms. Those they don’t meet the threshold should be made to do community service.

I was thinking of that woman who got 2.5 yrs (prison) for her twitter post & was thinking they could have given her 2.5yrs cleaning migrant accommodation instead then thought jeez that's a long time!

Weird how cleaning accommodation seems (to me at least) a lot harsher than jail )

[Archery1969]

Prison should be for sexual abuse or violence in all forms. Those they don’t meet the threshold should be made to do community service.

I was thinking of that woman who got 2.5 yrs (prison) for her twitter post & was thinking they could have given her 2.5yrs cleaning migrant accommodation instead then thought jeez that's a long time!

Weird how cleaning accommodation seems (to me at least) a lot harsher than jail )

Much better for her to go do something more useful like helping out in a care home, under supervision.