Mike Cruickshank's "Momentum system"

[JayDawg007]

Absolute nonsense of a system. God help you if you had a ton of liability on 0-0 and Betfair went down!

Ties up a good load of cash for an hour or so with little reward. You might as well scalp certain markets.

I have to say I don't find MC entirely trustworthy. I've heard lots of stories about him pinching other people's ideas and launching them as his own.

I did try and get a refund via Clickbank but Mike informed me I'd been banned from refunds in 2017 for god knows what.

I'd steer clear personally.

[firlandsfarm]

I did try and get a refund via Clickbank but Mike informed me I'd been banned from refunds in 2017 for god knows what.

Actually I did get a refund when I asked (I don't have the time to actively monitor football matches in real time) but I too have now been banned from future refunds (it's the second refund I've had from him, maybe that's the trigger) and he did emphasise that the ban would apply even if any future product generally offered a refund option. So I became a second class customer!

I can understand his concern of people deconstructing the system and then using it themselves, that's always a risk but as an existing customer for other products I would have expected him to apply a little judgement in who to ban and who not to (not a personal comment JayDawg! ).

As for his systems being old ideas, that doesn't bother me … if it's a system that makes a profit and I was not aware of then I'm just happy to be made aware of it. If someone doesn't know the principle of LTD and all it's spin-offs they would find value in being shown.

Maybe there is a case for opening a new Clickbank account and email for any new product!!

[TJSN1]

Just stumbled across this thread and thought I would comment as I purchased the Momentum bot as part of an automated betting package.

My experience is that the bot works as most of the time and makes a small profit on most trades.

However, over all it has lost me money. This is because it can't cope with two quick goals or when a goal is scored but is subsequently ruled out. These larger losses more than wipe out previous profits. There have also been occasions when the trades were placed as expected but still resulted in a small loss.

The automated betting package as a whole has made a good profit for me so I have no regrets, but the Momentum bot, in my opinion, won't make a profit in the long run.

[Kai]

The automated betting package as a whole has made a good profit for me so I have no regrets

Thanks for the feedback Mike

[The Silk Run]

The automated betting package as a whole has made a good profit for me so I have no regrets

Thanks for the feedback Mike

No fooling you Mr Kai

[TJSN1]

Haha I get the scepticism as that was my first post, but it wasn't supposed to be an advertisement.

I'm just a novice Betfair trader and Bet Angel subscriber.

[ShaunWhite]

My experience is that the bot works as most of the time it makes a small profit on most trades.

However, over all it has lost me money.

I love comments like this. .... So it didn't work then.

Btw did you just dive in and try these strategies, or give them a thorough backtest first?

[TJSN1]

The system doesn't work. The bot mostly does work technically, but obviously its flaws put pay to any long term profit.

There's a paper trade function but I just went in with very small stakes. Over all I've made a small loss using the bot, so nothing to cry about.

Just thought I'd add my experience to this thread as it is relevant.

My experience is that the bot works as most of the time it makes a small profit on most trades.

However, over all it has lost me money.

I love comments like this. .... So it didn't work then.

Btw did you just dive in and try these strategies, or give them a thorough backtest first?

[stigblomquist]

Re: Mike Cruickshank - I am a Betting Mastermind lifetime member and to be fair it has been well worth it, I have made a lot of money from the bonus bagging and casino strategies. However some of his strategies just haven't worked for me. Momentum is one of them, tried it out over 20 or 30 matches, never made a penny. The Eachway Sniper automated worked and I made a few hundred quid until I got gubbed by all the bookies it includes.

[TJSN1]

I'm in the process of getting all my bookie accounts gubbed with the eachway sniper bot. It's made good profits that have far outweighed the Momentum losses but it obviously won't last long.

It's helped build a trading bank though.

Re: Mike Cruickshank - I am a Betting Mastermind lifetime member and to be fair it has been well worth it, I have made a lot of money from the bonus bagging and casino strategies. However some of his strategies just haven't worked for me. Momentum is one of them, tried it out over 20 or 30 matches, never made a penny. The Eachway Sniper automated worked and I made a few hundred quid until I got gubbed by all the bookies it includes.

[Kai]

It's helped build a trading bank though.

Sure, but the concept of needing to build a trading bank first is questionable to say the least, a very common misconception.

What use is a trading bank without a trading edge, if it was not built organically? You can only lose it. Better to put it aside and start anew.

[ShaunWhite]

I'm in the process of getting all my bookie accounts gubbed with the eachway sniper bot. It's made good profits that have far outweighed the Momentum losses but it obviously won't last long.

It's helped build a trading bank though.

Re: Mike Cruickshank - I am a Betting Mastermind lifetime member and to be fair it has been well worth it, I have made a lot of money from the bonus bagging and casino strategies. However some of his strategies just haven't worked for me. Momentum is one of them, tried it out over 20 or 30 matches, never made a penny. The Eachway Sniper automated worked and I made a few hundred quid until I got gubbed by all the bookies it includes.

How are you sniping at the bookies, and doing it with automation? Those are terms I associate with in-running and betting through an api. Which bookies facilitate that?

[thepressure]

Is anyone running a similar strategy still

I've looked at the CS market and it seems quite illiquid with huge gaps in odd prices etc....does any kind of hedging system work with it due to the huge gaps ?

[RoyJay]

How are you sniping at the bookies, and doing it with automation? Those are terms I associate with in-running and betting through an api. Which bookies facilitate that?

No bookmakers facilitate it. Though lots of people run arbing robots etc. it’s a massive part of the problem of why we get the endless discussions about bookmaker account restrictions.

Most of the people who squeal about bookmakers restricting only do so because they can’t win on the exchanges. They need the exchanges to tell them which prices are wrong, then expect the bookmakers to facilitate them for as much as they want, with all the concessions, price boosts and extra places etc on top,

All the people who claim to be caught in the crossfire of this, and claim that they “just want a fair bet at a fair price” should just use the exchange. That’s where you get a FAIR BET.

[TJSN1]

The bookies don't facilitate it - there's no API involved. The bot supports about a dozen bookies and signs into each account using stored credentials. It then places each way value bets, using user defined criteria (stake and odds) based on comparison with exchange place odds.

I'm in the process of getting all my bookie accounts gubbed with the eachway sniper bot. It's made good profits that have far outweighed the Momentum losses but it obviously won't last long.

It's helped build a trading bank though.

Re: Mike Cruickshank - I am a Betting Mastermind lifetime member and to be fair it has been well worth it, I have made a lot of money from the bonus bagging and casino strategies. However some of his strategies just haven't worked for me. Momentum is one of them, tried it out over 20 or 30 matches, never made a penny. The Eachway Sniper automated worked and I made a few hundred quid until I got gubbed by all the bookies it includes.

How are you sniping at the bookies, and doing it with automation? Those are terms I associate with in-running and betting through an api. Which bookies facilitate that?