Tottenham riots: police let gangs run riot and loot
I think the big mistake we made was not to go in hard against the first group of rioters. That sent out a dangerous message.
If one good thing comes out of these riots, it will hopefully be that we reassess the way policing is done in this country. The police in this country are terrified of being accused of using excessive force (even against violent criminals) or of being accused of being racist, so they are not as robust as they otherwise would be. That needs to change...
Jeff
If one good thing comes out of these riots, it will hopefully be that we reassess the way policing is done in this country. The police in this country are terrified of being accused of using excessive force (even against violent criminals) or of being accused of being racist, so they are not as robust as they otherwise would be. That needs to change...
Jeff
Zenyatta wrote:What in the hell is going on over there in the UK? London looks like scenes from a post-apocalyptic sci-fi movie. Some guys finally figured out the way to grab 100% of profits was simply to snatch the goods?
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CaerMyrddin
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Just saw it on the news here, simply looks like a bunch of kids having fun and looting around...
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CaerMyrddin
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No need to be rude, Mugs. Imho they were having fun. Do you believe they were expressing their feelings in some sophisticated way?Fun?
FFS
They are pulling police from as far away as Yorkshire to cover London tonight. But what will happen to the places these police have been pulled from?
I'm already hearing Nottingham and other cities are going to be targeted. And the police that cover these cities will be elsewhere covering somewhere already trashed 24 hours too late.
Worrying times. And the definition of fun needs to be rewritten if it includes arson, attempted murder, the destruction of business, looting and scaring the local population out of it's wits.
I'm already hearing Nottingham and other cities are going to be targeted. And the police that cover these cities will be elsewhere covering somewhere already trashed 24 hours too late.
Worrying times. And the definition of fun needs to be rewritten if it includes arson, attempted murder, the destruction of business, looting and scaring the local population out of it's wits.
CaerMyrddin -
I think what you were saying was that the rioters are rioting for the sake of rioting (rather than being politically motivated).
But by calling it 'fun', you might give the impression that you don't think it's a big deal. However, I realise that wasn't your intention, and that English isn't your first language.
Jeff
I think what you were saying was that the rioters are rioting for the sake of rioting (rather than being politically motivated).
But by calling it 'fun', you might give the impression that you don't think it's a big deal. However, I realise that wasn't your intention, and that English isn't your first language.
Jeff
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CaerMyrddin
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Oh, I'm really sorry then!
I do think it's a big deal and I was really impressed with what I've seen. I can't hardly imagine how it feels to have such a mess around home. Sorry!
And yes, I think they are rioting just to get the stuff and play along (well, can I say that?). Some rioters were breaking the shops with a smile in the face. This has nothing to do with the riots we've seen in LA for instance.
I do think it's a big deal and I was really impressed with what I've seen. I can't hardly imagine how it feels to have such a mess around home. Sorry!
And yes, I think they are rioting just to get the stuff and play along (well, can I say that?). Some rioters were breaking the shops with a smile in the face. This has nothing to do with the riots we've seen in LA for instance.
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16,000 Police tonight, all leave cancelled, England v Holland called off, Parliament recalled for Thursday.
Will people come out tonight and riot again? The way they run when charged by the police makes me think they won't to any great number in London but who knows.
I will be tuning in pop corn at the ready.
Will people come out tonight and riot again? The way they run when charged by the police makes me think they won't to any great number in London but who knows.
I will be tuning in pop corn at the ready.
andyfuller wrote:Shows the kind of people these are:
Video of a person who has been mugged is helped up off the floor after seemingly being beaten hence the blood, then they just help themselves to more of his stuff:
https://www.facebook.com/video/video.ph ... 3636850851
could not see this when andy posted this as im not a face book user and hence cant log in. but im assuming this is the incident http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14456065 he is refering to.
what the feck as this sort of thing got to do with the suppossed protest against the police supposedly purposely killing some fella in a mini cab several days ago in tottenham.
i wish the police would purposely hunt down and shoot these barstewards.
After 9/11, I thought that the anti-terrorist measures were OTT.
But I can now understand where the Americans were coming from. I consider myself to be a civilised person, and I don't believe in punishment for punishment's sake. But if the army were to open fire on the rioters, I'd probably cheer. These bastards are trying to rape my great nation, and I take that personally...
Jeff
But I can now understand where the Americans were coming from. I consider myself to be a civilised person, and I don't believe in punishment for punishment's sake. But if the army were to open fire on the rioters, I'd probably cheer. These bastards are trying to rape my great nation, and I take that personally...
Jeff
to75ne wrote: i wish the police would purposely hunt down and shoot these barstewards.
On the news just now two girls in Croydon
said
"We're doin' this to show the police we can do what we want. Iss da Government, da Conservative or sumfing or, I dunno who it is."
Then Asked Why are people attacking local businesses in their own communities ?
"Cause dere rich innit? We're showin da police and da rich people dat we can what we want innit?"
sums it up really, thick, clueless, morons
said
"We're doin' this to show the police we can do what we want. Iss da Government, da Conservative or sumfing or, I dunno who it is."
Then Asked Why are people attacking local businesses in their own communities ?
"Cause dere rich innit? We're showin da police and da rich people dat we can what we want innit?"
sums it up really, thick, clueless, morons