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Key_Satan
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Hi folks.

I've made automation rule which didn't trigger although the situation was such as I described inside the rule. Maybe you could find some error?

So I try to implement some version of Lay The Draw, I lay myself but want to green up automatically. Conditions for the rule are 1 matched bet (my back bet), 0 unmatched bets,
and last traded price now is greater than LTP 60 seconds ago +10 ticks (i want to reflect that goal was scored). Maybe not the most polished way to do it, but in example I traded (PSV-MU) it should've worked. So can you help me with what could go wrong in this rule?

Thanks.
convoysur-2
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Hi
I have one question about the above post.
Why would anyone call themself satan ?
really im stuck with this ,,
Marc --aka---christ
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to75ne
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convoysur-2 wrote:Hi
I have one question about the above post.
Why would anyone call themself satan ?
really im stuck with this ,,
Marc --aka---christ
:lol: :lol:
probably because he/she is a young and inadequate introvert who is friendless and dresses in black with bits of metal in his/her nose/lips/mouth trying to look scary. :lol:
Key_Satan
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convoysur-2 wrote:Hi
I have one question about the above post.
Why would anyone call themself satan ?
really im stuck with this ,,
Marc --aka---christ
well, english is not my native language, and it hasn't such meaning in my country)

still, any help?
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Dallas
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Key_Satan wrote:
convoysur-2 wrote:Hi
I have one question about the above post.
Why would anyone call themself satan ?
really im stuck with this ,,
Marc --aka---christ
well, english is not my native language, and it hasn't such meaning in my country)

still, any help?
I understand what your saying but as english is the most comon language on here it might be a good idea to check and consider what user names are not likely to cause possible offence, that said with regards to your rule to answer your question i would need to see the full rule set up, its a straight forward enough rule so it must only be something simple conflicting and stopping it working - something like you dont have it set to apply in play for example.
Key_Satan
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Dallas wrote:
Key_Satan wrote:
convoysur-2 wrote:Hi
I have one question about the above post.
Why would anyone call themself satan ?
really im stuck with this ,,
Marc --aka---christ
well, english is not my native language, and it hasn't such meaning in my country)

still, any help?
I understand what your saying but as english is the most comon language on here it might be a good idea to check and consider what user names are not likely to cause possible offence, that said with regards to your rule to answer your question i would need to see the full rule set up, its a straight forward enough rule so it must only be something simple conflicting and stopping it working - something like you dont have it set to apply in play for example.
well, i'm using it on several english-language forums and frankly it's the first time anybody comments on it :shock:

in what form should i better present my setup of rule?

i would try to use it on fewm more matches to be sure it's not working.
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Dallas
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You could export from guarian and upload here as a .BAT file or go through it page by page and type out exactly what you have strating with all the info you have on the General Tab, parameters and finally conditions
Key_Satan
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thanks.
well, something like this?
only it says it's a .baf file
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Dallas
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Thats it, sorry it was a typo from me, i just opened it quickly and first thing i seen was its set to arm 1hr after goes in play - if i remember rightly yesterdays goal was after 40mins so thats one reason why it did nt work, also you only have it set to trigger once you need it to trigger multiple times then stop once greened up - yesterday it would of triggered once on the hour mark and no more

Ill look at the rest soon as i get chance
Key_Satan
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Dallas wrote:Thats it, sorry it was a typo from me, i just opened it quickly and first thing i seen was its set to arm 1hr after goes in play - if i remember rightly yesterdays goal was after 40mins so thats one reason why it did nt work, also you only have it set to trigger once you need it to trigger multiple times then stop once greened up - yesterday it would of triggered once on the hour mark and no more

Ill look at the rest soon as i get chance
no, sorry, i didn't make myself clear, i used rule only in second half, if after first the score was tied. can you explain the latter part please? i thought i need to trigger just once to green up and finish the trade, and it would trigger only when all the conditions are met, no?
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Dallas
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Ok in that case the timing part is right, the trigger is how many times the rule trys to fire and should be done multliple times with a greenup if you had it set to say trigger 3 times re arm every 5 secs then after 1 hours it would look to see if the condition you had set had been met (ie, a goal) if not 5 secs later it would re arm and look again and do this 3 times in total then stop
Key_Satan
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Dallas wrote:Ok in that case the timing part is right, the trigger is how many times the rule trys to fire and should be done multliple times with a greenup if you had it set to say trigger 3 times re arm every 5 secs then after 1 hours it would look to see if the condition you had set had been met (ie, a goal) if not 5 secs later it would re arm and look again and do this 3 times in total then stop
oh I see, I didn't understand that right. So what exactly do I need to do to try to apply this rule in the given timeframe until I green up?
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Dallas
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I ve ammened the rule for you, some of the changes ive made
Applied to look at just betfair row 3 as this is where the draw always is so you dont have to specify individual teams
From 1hr it Will look to close trade and green up every 10 secs providing the draw odds have jumped 10 ticks higher than they where 60secs ago,
It will also only close and green if there is ONLY 1 matched bet already placed, so if you have nt placed a manual lay no closing trade will occur, once closed this will mean there is now 2 matched bets so it wont close again if another goal comes.

I have nt chance to double check and test and i done it between races this afternoon so do test yourself first or watch live when you use the first few times.
Last edited by Dallas on Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Key_Satan
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Thank you very much for your time and effort, Dallas! I will use it today for some matches and I hope it will work correctly. Last question, what is the difference betwen options "Green All Selections" and "Close Trade On Selection with Greening"? Does the second mean profit only on selection being traded and zero P-L on other selections?
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Dallas
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No there is a seperate rule type for that "close trade on selection" which will keep all profits on just that one selection and zero P&L on other.
There's not much difference between "Green all selections" and "Close trade on selection with greening" just that some rules suit one better than the other.
For this rule as the trade is all on just one selection (draw) and you have conditions looking at the number of matched bets on that selection then "close trade on selection with greening" is the better of the two and the way i have done it in the past under similar curcumstances.
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