Information/sound if lost

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Firel
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Can I optimise BetAngel so if I lose a bet he stops the Automation and/or brings up an information/sound that the bet is lost?
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Dallas
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You can use the rule type "play sound alert" in automation and set it to do this if X loss happens
Firel
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I only play lay bets, on greyhounds. For now I play $0.05 on lay. My settings:
Play sound
start at 1second before in-time
stop at 50minutes after intime


condition:

Closing Profit is greater than 0.01

However no sound is played. Any tips?
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Dallas
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It looks like you have the timing part incorrect, ive made a file for you just download and import into guardian.

Its set to work from 5 mins to 1 sec before the start time (on any market)
you will have to add your own sound file on the parmerters tab

Any problems let me know
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Dallas
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I just noticed you said it was muts you where using on, as muts don't go in play it may not work post -off, using a sound file/rule post -off on a market that does not go in play is not something i have tried so will have to double check this for you tomorrow and see what happens.

Or a quick way you could find out is use the file you have made and just change the time to 20:00:00 hrs before the off and in practice mode place a lay on a horse market (also change the profit condition to "Less than 0" ) - so as you place a lay the sound should play immediately if so then its set up right and its the non in-running of the muts thats stopping it playing on them - if it still does not work then its definitely a problem with the rule its self and can be corrected in which case try the one i have sent you.
Firel
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I set it up like that:

before in play 20 hours
after inplay 50minutes
Closing trading profit with greening less than 0.01

and it works imeediately when i place a lay bet.
however I don;t think it is able to play a sound that would inform me that I won/lost after the bet goes inplay(obviously that is when the final result is determined)
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Dallas
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Ok, the file i just sent you i tested first and it works fine and was set originally for pre-play, it will also work in-play providing the market goes turns in play. If its not a in-play market and therefore just suspends at the off as the greyhounds do then it work work (I have just tested it this on the U.S horse markets).

What is it your doing exactly is it placing a outright lay bet (not trading) and want notification if that bet loses at the end of the actual race?

Or are you trading by laying pre-race and just want sound notification if your loss exceeds £X amount?
Firel
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What is it your doing exactly is it placing a outright lay bet (not trading) and want notification if that bet loses at the end of the actual race?

Yes, because if I lose I need to correct the stake amount and checking every lay bet on Betfair's website whether it went in or not is quite annoying.
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Dallas
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Ok in that case the sound file is nt a option as it cant be triggered during a suspended market or after its closed - Have you looked at setting your stake/liability as a percentage of your bank?

If you create a rule to place a lay bet then on the parameters page you can set it as a percentage of your balance so will adjust automatically each race depending on your previous results?

This may or may not work depending on what the actual staking plan you intend to use is but have a look and see if it will do what you require and let me know.
Firel
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I have 20$ now. I bet 0.05$ on every lay.
Lets say I lost, and I lost the liability of (for example) 0.20$. Then, my next bets stake ishould be 0.05(usual stake)+0.20(as thats how much I lost previously=0.25$ . If this wins, I come back to 0.05$


I dont think you can set it up in BetAngel
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Dallas
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Now you have explained exactly what your doing i don't think it is, at least not the staking plan part - the sound alert would of been possible on a market had it been one that turned in-play but the greyhounds is one of the few that dont.

I will out of curiosity double check guardian when im logged on tomorrow to see if there are any other possibilities or ways to do it but unfortunately for these circumstances am sure there is not.
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LeTiss
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Firel wrote:I have 20$ now. I bet 0.05$ on every lay.
Lets say I lost, and I lost the liability of (for example) 0.20$. Then, my next bets stake ishould be 0.05(usual stake)+0.20(as thats how much I lost previously=0.25$ . If this wins, I come back to 0.05$
Dallas has given you help that goes beyond what would be expected, so credit to him for that

However, I was drawn to this particular post of yours. You need to detach yourself from that mindset, I have no idea how many people arrive with this gameplan. You are here to TRADE, not GAMBLE. People who chase losing trades/bets are already on a psychological slippery slope.

I can guarantee you, you will get some markets that lose money. What you need to do is analyse why it didn't work. Once you get more winners than losers, and the bot makes a profit, you can then move onto the next stage which is trialing increased stakes.

Whatever you do, NEVER CHASE LOSERS Firel....... otherwise you will fail at this game, guaranteed!
Lammtarra
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Probably the only thing I am "qualified" to talk about on here......

DO NOT, repeat DO NOT, chase losses. End of.

I have dabbled in no end of these plans and they all have one thing in common.......they all lose in the end.

Don't be fooled into beieving that they are profitable because you've gone weeks or even months winning money, they will have you in the end.

Don't spend 5 years f****** about like I have, get serious with this and start moving forward.

I'm not there yet, nowhere near in fact, but I have stopped trying these methods that's for sure.
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to75ne
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as kind and as helpful as dallas is, hopefully he will be even more helpful and kinder to you, by not showing you how to use automation rules to produce a loss recovery plan.
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Dallas
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to75ne wrote:as kind and as helpful as dallas is, hopefully he will be even more helpful and kinder to you, by not showing you how to use automation rules to produce a loss recovery plan.
Once it became clear what the posters intensions where ie, loss recovery staking plan had i shown them a work around for what they wanted i would of accompanied that with a few words of advice about the dangers of using such plans and the inevitable outcome they will end up with, then leave it up to them to make the decision on how they want to procede.

But as we all know most have already been sucked in by the authors of such stratergies on the web and all the false reviews before they even arrive here and are now set on following it through regardless of any warnings - just as im sure this user is doing right now despite both leTiss and Lammtarra kindly taking the time to give there advice and benefit of their experience.
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