Lay The Field Automation Help

[cjbmeb14]

I have been experimenting today with “Laying The Field” automation, in practise mode.
Was surprised to get into profit on all 3 races I tried it on.
However, I am a bit unsure on the settings I have and would welcome any suggestions or advice.

On the first screenshot below you will see that I have used Guardian and have entered:
1. Rule Name: Lay field
2. Rule Type: Lay All Selections

3. Armed the trigger 10 seconds after event goes in play
4. Until: 5 minutes after event goes in play.

5. Allowed rule to trigger 1 time and waiting 5 seconds before rearming.

On second screenshot below, Parameters.
Odds of 2
2. Stake fixed amount £10

On third screenshot below
New rule Keep all
2. Keep all unmatched bets

Rule trigger times
3. Arm trigger at 4 minutes 40 seconds
4. Until: 4 minutes and 50 seconds

5. Allow rule to trigger up to 3 times and wait 5 seconds before rearming.

The fourth screenshot shows that the bot has triggered and matched 3 successful lays.
Here then is where I am stuck:

I need the automation to green up before the end of the race.
Problem is that all races finish at different times, how can I do this?

[Dallas]

You can green up anytime you wish by adding a rule type "green all selections" and in conditions use "green all profit condition" and set to greater than £X

Is there a reason you want to green out early?
With the odds you have specified once you have the 3rd horse trade at 2.0 or below you have a guaranteed profit of £10 and every other horse afterwards is a further £10 profit

You can take out the "Keep unmatched" matched part as its not needed for what your doing and currently serving no purpose - only if you where placing the lays before the off would you need to use this (although its not doing any harm being there). Other than that everything else is fine the way you have it.

[PeterLe]

CJ
Wolverhampton would be a good one to run this on tonight
regards
Peter

[cjbmeb14]

Well, I have kept this running all night at Wolverhampton and it never lost a trade.
Still need some safety measures though if anyone can help?

[Dallas]

I use safety guards on all my rules in more than one way - There easy enough to add if you know what measures you want to put in?

[PeterLe]

You can start to see how a strategy can develop..
for example in the 19:30 Dund (i think), the loser touched 1.03 and the winner touched 500+

...So in time, you might have a strategy that builds on what you have right now (2 under 2..) lets call that strategy 1

For example, Stratgy 2 may be developed on top of Strategy 1...something like:-

If I have a minimum of £10 on each runner (ie two lays at 2 have triggered)
and
the back price of the fav is <1.1
And
the back book price is x
and
Other conditions
lay the current fav (reverse odds) for a fixed liability of say £3, fire it once

Strategy 3 may build on strategy 2

It could check to see if the profit is say >99 or >50
and
Then do other things..(maybe throw a few back bets in at high odds (for small sums) etc lay others so on and so forth...

Strategy 1 would be like watching a roman candle
whereas strategy 3 would be like watching a the finale of a firework show!

Build slowly, (put n lots of safe guards like you suggest, keep a small amount in your trading account; check the liability settings in betangel)

You will only be limited by your imagination

[zielinski]

I setup all the automation rules in lay the field pre and inplay but i have a problem how can I create rule lay all with odds?

its. how can I setup rules lay all with 3.0 odds or 2.0 odds if one race minimum odds is for example 2.3 and another minimum odds for favorite horse is 4.

i want to create rule that betangel should be laying all in first race lay all with 2 and second 3.
how betangel can check first the best odds and laying all with odds under than first favorite course?

ufff i hope that you understand me.

[Dallas]

So you want to lay the field at odds depending on the SP of the fav?

If the SP of the fav is around 2.3 lay the field at 2.0
or if the sp of the fav is around 3.5+ lay the field at 3.0

Have i understood correctly?

[zielinski]

yes but how can I setup it in betangel

[Dallas]

Below is a guide to what conditions to use and how to set it up, use whatever odds you want in the actual SP area's

Create the rule to Lay all selections
Parameters
"fixed odds" 2.0

Conditions
"Fixed odds condition"
"Nominated" by Position (sorted in order of favoritism) 1
"The selections" Actual SP is less than 2.98

Go back to the general tab and click on the icon with two green arrows to duplicate the whole rule and change the following

Parameters
"Fixed odds" 3.0

Conditions
"Fixed odds condition"
"Nominated" by Position (sorted in order of favoritism) 1
"The selections" Actual SP is greater than 3.0
"Nominated" by Position (sorted in order of favoritism) 1
"The selections" Actual SP is less than 4.0

[zielinski]

Really thank you I'll try tomorrow on the any race but thanks for your answer. Ill be in contact and tomorrow Ill send my opinion that it is working.

[zd210291]

apologies if this is a bit off topic but have been experimenting with lay the field myself at odds of 1.8, does anyone know of a calculator to work out profit/loss? Looking to experiment with odds so want to find out what works.

[Euler]

If you lay two things at 2.00 you will break even

(1/2.00) = 0.50

0.50 * 2 = 1

Three would produce a profit and so on