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jamesg46
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Euler wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:55 pm
It's sort of misleading to list them as shares in which case as what you effectively have is a traded option with an underlying value.
I think that hits the nail on the head.
jamesg46
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Euler wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:02 pm
I modelled traded options with fixed expiries and with or without dividends in the 90's. Still have the model somewhere.

Though it's not much use here it seems unless you can short? Can you sell on FI without buying first?
That would be nice to know actually. If you could short without buying then I'd probably be interested.
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Naffman
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After a tiny rally from Xmas, the Footie (yes that's real don't laugh) has taken a sharp nosedive as FI have announced matchday dividends are coming to an end.

The shares are worthless, the only way to make money is to buy that one player who dominates the transfer headlines through the summer.
jamesedwards
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Naffman wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:05 pm
After a tiny rally from Xmas, the Footie (yes that's real don't laugh) has taken a sharp nosedive as FI have announced matchday dividends are coming to an end.

The shares are worthless, the only way to make money is to buy that one player who dominates the transfer headlines through the summer.
You're confusing In-Play Dividends with Match Day Dividends. IPD are being removed but these only ever applied for the first month you owned the shares anyway as they were brought in to promote trading (as trading drives commission). MDD and Media Divs continue as usual.
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Naffman
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jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:12 pm
Naffman wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:05 pm
After a tiny rally from Xmas, the Footie (yes that's real don't laugh) has taken a sharp nosedive as FI have announced matchday dividends are coming to an end.

The shares are worthless, the only way to make money is to buy that one player who dominates the transfer headlines through the summer.
You're confusing In-Play Dividends with Match Day Dividends. IPD are being removed but these only ever applied for the first month you owned the shares anyway as they were brought in to promote trading (as trading drives commission). MDD and Media Divs continue as usual.
I didn't know there was MDD but I imagine a lot of people were trading in and out of the same player to get access to the IPD every month. I'm really quite amazed anyone is still investing especially when FI can change the rules anytime they want.
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Naffman wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:45 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:12 pm
Naffman wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:05 pm
After a tiny rally from Xmas, the Footie (yes that's real don't laugh) has taken a sharp nosedive as FI have announced matchday dividends are coming to an end.

The shares are worthless, the only way to make money is to buy that one player who dominates the transfer headlines through the summer.
You're confusing In-Play Dividends with Match Day Dividends. IPD are being removed but these only ever applied for the first month you owned the shares anyway as they were brought in to promote trading (as trading drives commission). MDD and Media Divs continue as usual.
I didn't know there was MDD but I imagine a lot of people were trading in and out of the same player to get access to the IPD every month. I'm really quite amazed anyone is still investing especially when FI can change the rules anytime they want.
Yes you used to get 1p for every assist and 2p for every goal for 30 days after purchase. With the collapse of prices it was becoming a popular strategy to churn through cheaper players who had high assist and goal ratio. As you would expect these players saw their price drop off a cliff and many have been burnt again.
sionascaig
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... hare-price

Looks like a few issues are being experienced, And CaanB getting a lot of abuse for pointing them out.
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Naffman
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sionascaig wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:47 am
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... hare-price

Looks like a few issues are being experienced, And CaanB getting a lot of abuse for pointing them out.
Approx his last 40 reviews on his book are nearly all 1* and posted on the same date :lol:

He's a knob yes but so are the FI lot who also have 5 figure sums invested and negative publicity certainly won't improve their position so I guess that's why you see the anger/trolling.
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