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Willygubbins
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Hi, Is there any way to place automatic green up bets relative to the odds the orgonal back bet is place at, for example if the Back bet is placed at odds between 11 and 16 then a green up lay bet is placed at odds of 4? I have attempted to do this using signals and Close trade with greening but it has proved a bit unreliable, Any feedback is appreciated.
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Dallas
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When you use the 'Green all Selections' rule you can check for conditions against a selection before the rule is triggered

Say for example your rule was triggering away on out siders but you wanted to 'Green All' but only when the Fav trades below 2.0 you would set it us as follows

Start with a 'green all selections' rule
Then in the 'Selections (conditions only)' section at the bottom of the 'General' Tab select 'By Position (sorted in order of favouritism) 1'

Add a 'Fixed odds Condition'
Selection 'By Position (sorted in order of favouritism) 1'
Last Traded Price is Below 2.0

HTH
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this is one of the logs where it didnt fire properly:
18/05/2017 14:18:59: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 1
18/05/2017 14:19:00: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 2
18/05/2017 14:19:01: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 3
18/05/2017 14:19:02: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 4
18/05/2017 14:19:03: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 5
18/05/2017 14:19:04: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 6
18/05/2017 14:19:05: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 7
18/05/2017 14:19:06: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 8
18/05/2017 14:19:07: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 9
18/05/2017 14:19:08: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 10
18/05/2017 14:19:09: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 11
18/05/2017 14:19:10: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 12
18/05/2017 14:19:11: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 13
18/05/2017 14:19:12: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 14
18/05/2017 14:19:13: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 15
18/05/2017 14:19:14: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 16
18/05/2017 14:19:15: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 17
18/05/2017 14:19:16: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 18
18/05/2017 14:19:17: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 19
18/05/2017 14:19:18: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 20
18/05/2017 14:19:19: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 21
18/05/2017 14:19:20: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 22
18/05/2017 14:19:21: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 23
18/05/2017 14:19:22: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 24
18/05/2017 14:19:23: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 25
18/05/2017 14:19:24: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 26
18/05/2017 14:19:25: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 27
18/05/2017 14:19:26: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 28
18/05/2017 14:19:27: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 29
18/05/2017 14:19:28: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 30
18/05/2017 14:19:28: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for Union Rose: Nom 1 16-32 = 1
18/05/2017 14:19:28: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for Rasheeq: Nom 2 16-32 = 1
18/05/2017 14:19:29: [G_Auto] : £ 100.00 Back bet placed on Union Rose at 18.5. Fully matched at 18.5. Ref: 10177 ( Fill or kill bet with 180 seconds delay. )
18/05/2017 14:19:29: [G_Auto] : £ 100.00 Back bet placed on Rasheeq at 16.5. Fully matched at 16.5. Ref: 10178 ( Fill or kill bet with 180 seconds delay. )
18/05/2017 14:19:29: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 31
18/05/2017 14:20:49: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
18/05/2017 14:21:49: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
I have checked the odds on Timeform, Rasheeq hit 3.25 and so should have closed the trade with greening after the odds went below 4.7 but nothing happened
Last edited by Willygubbins on Thu May 18, 2017 3:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Dallas wrote:
Thu May 18, 2017 3:36 pm
When you use the 'Green all Selections' rule you can check for conditions against a selection before the rule is triggered

Say for example your rule was triggering away on out siders but you wanted to 'Green All' but only when the Fav trades below 2.0 you would set it us as follows

Start with a 'green all selections' rule
Then in the 'Selections (conditions only)' section at the bottom of the 'General' Tab select 'By Position (sorted in order of favouritism) 1'

Add a 'Fixed odds Condition'
Selection 'By Position (sorted in order of favouritism) 1'
Last Traded Price is Below 2.0

HTH
Dallas, I donr want to green all selections.... I want to green induvidual selections
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Willygubbins wrote:
Thu May 18, 2017 3:41 pm
Dallas wrote:
Thu May 18, 2017 3:36 pm
When you use the 'Green all Selections' rule you can check for conditions against a selection before the rule is triggered

Say for example your rule was triggering away on out siders but you wanted to 'Green All' but only when the Fav trades below 2.0 you would set it us as follows

Start with a 'green all selections' rule
Then in the 'Selections (conditions only)' section at the bottom of the 'General' Tab select 'By Position (sorted in order of favouritism) 1'

Add a 'Fixed odds Condition'
Selection 'By Position (sorted in order of favouritism) 1'
Last Traded Price is Below 2.0

HTH
Dallas, I donr want to green all selections.... I want to green induvidual selections

That was just a generic example of how/which conditions you could use, for single selections use the rule 'Close trade trade on selection with greening'
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Willygubbins
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Hi dallas I have been, I attached a rule that i have been using but it seems to not fire all the time despite the conditions being met?
There must be an issue but i cannot see it.
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Willygubbins wrote:
Thu May 18, 2017 3:40 pm
I have checked the odds on Timeform, Rasheeq hit 3.25 and so should have closed the trade with greening after the odds went below 4.7 but nothing happened
How long was it at odds below your target price?
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Willygubbins
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu May 18, 2017 4:22 pm
Willygubbins wrote:
Thu May 18, 2017 3:40 pm
I have checked the odds on Timeform, Rasheeq hit 3.25 and so should have closed the trade with greening after the odds went below 4.7 but nothing happened
How long was it at odds below your target price?
The bit of the file is set to close trade with greening if fixed odds condition is lower than 4.7, and the signal is set, the signal was set and to get to 3.25 it had to be below 4.7 long enough to at least place a lay bet to green up thats a lot of ticks
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Willygubbins
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also double betting? that has been happening for now apparent reason....
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Willygubbins wrote:
Thu May 18, 2017 5:38 pm
also double betting? that has been happening for now apparent reason....
Looking at your baf you could get double bets if the first hadn't been matched within 5 secs, maybe check number of unmatched bets = 0 as well as number of matched bets =0? Or, set a signal when Guardian fires the back rule, and check that this 'AlreadyFired' signal isn't set as a condition in the back rule? (Although I see you've set the rule to only fire once and that should have stopped it)

20+ ticks might seem a lot but near the end IP, they can come and go in milliseconds.
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Just had this happen twice....

18/05/2017 18:39:00: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 1
18/05/2017 18:39:01: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 2
18/05/2017 18:39:02: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 3
18/05/2017 18:39:03: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 4
18/05/2017 18:39:04: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 5
18/05/2017 18:39:05: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 6
18/05/2017 18:39:06: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 7
18/05/2017 18:39:07: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 8
18/05/2017 18:39:08: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 9
18/05/2017 18:39:09: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 10
18/05/2017 18:39:10: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 11
18/05/2017 18:39:11: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 12
18/05/2017 18:39:12: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 13
18/05/2017 18:39:13: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 14
18/05/2017 18:39:14: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 15
18/05/2017 18:39:15: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 16
18/05/2017 18:39:16: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 17
18/05/2017 18:39:17: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 18
18/05/2017 18:39:18: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 19
18/05/2017 18:39:19: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 20
18/05/2017 18:39:20: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 21
18/05/2017 18:39:21: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 22
18/05/2017 18:39:22: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 23
18/05/2017 18:39:23: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 24
18/05/2017 18:39:24: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 25
18/05/2017 18:39:25: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 26
18/05/2017 18:39:26: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 27
18/05/2017 18:39:27: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 28
18/05/2017 18:39:28: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 29
18/05/2017 18:39:28: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for Brunswick Gold: Nom 1 3-6 = 1
18/05/2017 18:39:28: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for Hazy Tom: Nom 2 6-11 = 1
18/05/2017 18:39:29: [G_Auto] : £ 100.00 Back bet placed on Brunswick Gold at 3.9. Fully matched at 3.9. Ref: 10562 ( Fill or kill bet with 180 seconds delay. )
18/05/2017 18:39:29: [G_Auto] : £ 100.00 Back bet placed on Hazy Tom at 9. Fully matched at 9. Ref: 10563 ( Fill or kill bet with 180 seconds delay. )
18/05/2017 18:39:29: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer = 30
18/05/2017 18:40:32: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
18/05/2017 18:40:32: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
18/05/2017 18:40:32: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
18/05/2017 18:44:52: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Hazy Tom by Laying 300.00 at 3
18/05/2017 18:44:52: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Hazy Tom by Laying 300.00 at 3
18/05/2017 18:46:40: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

Which ended with this.....
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and
18/05/2017 18:49:00: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 1
18/05/2017 18:49:01: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 2
18/05/2017 18:49:02: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 3
18/05/2017 18:49:03: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 4
18/05/2017 18:49:04: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 5
18/05/2017 18:49:05: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 6
18/05/2017 18:49:06: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 7
18/05/2017 18:49:07: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 8
18/05/2017 18:49:08: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 9
18/05/2017 18:49:09: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 10
18/05/2017 18:49:10: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 11
18/05/2017 18:49:11: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 12
18/05/2017 18:49:12: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 13
18/05/2017 18:49:13: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 14
18/05/2017 18:49:14: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 15
18/05/2017 18:49:15: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 16
18/05/2017 18:49:16: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 17
18/05/2017 18:49:17: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 18
18/05/2017 18:49:18: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 19
18/05/2017 18:49:19: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 20
18/05/2017 18:49:20: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 21
18/05/2017 18:49:21: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 22
18/05/2017 18:49:22: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 23
18/05/2017 18:49:23: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 24
18/05/2017 18:49:24: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 25
18/05/2017 18:49:25: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 26
18/05/2017 18:49:26: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 27
18/05/2017 18:49:27: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 28
18/05/2017 18:49:28: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 29
18/05/2017 18:49:28: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for Opposition: Nom 1 6-11 = 1
18/05/2017 18:49:28: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for Hermann: Nom 2 6-11 = 1
18/05/2017 18:49:29: [G_Auto] : £ 100.00 Back bet placed on Opposition at 6.2. Fully matched at 6.2. Ref: 10566 ( Fill or kill bet with 180 seconds delay. )
18/05/2017 18:49:29: [G_Auto] : £ 100.00 Back bet placed on Hermann at 7. Fully matched at 7. Ref: 10567 ( Fill or kill bet with 180 seconds delay. )
18/05/2017 18:49:29: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: timer3 = 30
18/05/2017 18:49:30: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for Opposition: Nom 1 3-6 = 1
18/05/2017 18:54:32: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
18/05/2017 18:54:32: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
18/05/2017 18:54:32: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
18/05/2017 18:56:13: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Hermann by Laying 241.38 at 2.9
18/05/2017 18:56:13: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Hermann by Laying 241.38 at 2.9
18/05/2017 18:57:09: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
18/05/2017 18:57:40: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
18/05/2017 18:57:51: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

ended in this.........
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