Thirsk 20:05 Free Money!

[Stewart]

In an unbelievable race the 2/1 jolly comes from nowhere to win on the line after trading at 1000. But an objection by the clerk of the scales to the winners rider sees the market re-opened.

Anyone knowing the rules would know that the winner's (Sunbow) jockey weighed in 'light' and would be disqualified. I managed to bag 1.11 on Betfair that the runner up would get the race.

This was the best odds on bet I have ever had

[Iron]

What an odd state of affairs!

I wonder why the clerk in question didn't point this out before the race!

Jeff

In an unbelievable race the 2/1 jolly comes from nowhere to win on the line after trading at 1000. But an objection by the clerk of the scales to the winners rider sees the market re-opened.

Anyone knowing the rules would know that the winner's (Sunbow) jockey weighed in 'light' and would be disqualified. I managed to bag 1.11 on Betfair that the runner up would get the race.

This was the best odds on bet I have ever had

[to75ne]

reckon the clerk screwed up

[Iron]

If so, you have to give him or her credit for owning up to the mistake!

I'd want the ground to eat me up if I'd made an error like that!

Jeff

reckon the clerk screwed up

[Stewart]

Jocks have to weigh out prior to race then weigh in again after the race.

There are lead weights that go in the saddle, to make up the required weight and one of these must have fallen out.

Anytime the Clerk objects then the horse in question will always be placed last.

If you know the rules then you have an edge

[Iron]

Is there not a risk that, just as football referees sometimes deny blatant penalties, the stewards might choose to use their discretion and allow the victory to stand?

Jeff

Jocks have to weigh out prior to race then weigh in again after the race.

There are lead weights that go in the saddle, to make up the required weight and one of these must have fallen out.

Anytime the Clerk objects then the horse in question will always be placed last.

If you know the rules then you have an edge

[Stewart]

On this one no. There is a tolerance that is allowed (max 1lb) and only if the weight is outside this range can the Clerk of the Scales object.

As soon as the Clerk objects then it is a done deal.

[to75ne]

can’t ever recall a clerk of the scales decision being over ruled, or using any discretion. I could be wrong.

[Iron]

In that case, perhaps Betfair should acquaint themselves with the rules of racing!

BTW, well done!

Jeff

On this one no. There is a tolerance that is allowed (max 1lb) and only if the weight is outside this range can the Clerk of the Scales object.

As soon as the Clerk objects then it is a done deal.

[Iron]

My thinking was that, if the jockey was just carrying a couple of pounds less than he should have, and if the horse won by a country mile, then they might take the view that the horse would have won anyway.

But Stewart has clarified that they are not able to do that.

Jeff

can’t ever recall a clerk of the scales decision being over ruled, or using any discretion. I could be wrong.

[Stewart]

Think that the lack of info to the public at the track added to the confusion. They stated that the clerk objected but then nothing else for 10/15mins.

Only regular race goers would have known what the outcome would then be

Stewart

[Bet Angel]

First time I have seen something like this. The strange thing was that RUK were debating it for many many minutes. I didn't think that free money could exist, but the commentators went over it in great detail and therefore you couldn't do anything really than have a peice of it. I still felt nervous though, just in case there was some sort of scenario where the objection could fail.

Remarkable race as well, rather appropiate that Hunting for treasure "won".

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[JollyGreen]

There was a race once where Andrew Thornton won the race, Fontwell if my memory serves me correctly, but was then disqualified for weighing in light by 1.5 lbs. I remember it because I subsequently heard that it was an unfortunate series of events.

He weighed out and then went to answer the call of nature. He apparently had a rather large dump ...sorry but how else can you explain it...which meant he then rode the race and was light when he weighed back in again. I am sure that's what happened.

[willalex]

UNfortunate for backers of Sunbow who came from the clouds to win by a nose and then have the race taken away.

I know Paddy Powers are paying out in full on bets in shops as a goodwill gesture and Corals have paid out on dead heat rules

I unfortunately backed it in Ladbrokes and given their track record I'm not hopeful. Should the bet not at least be treated as a void given the circumstances ?

[andyfuller]

I can remember at least one case where an Objection by the clerk has not led to an over turned result so I wouldn't go putting all your money on next time it happens.