Apologies! Can someone write or improve automation rules for a small remuneration?
- BetScalper
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Start by thinking about exactly what you are trying todo.
Then write down what each rule should do.
Then write down what each rule should not do.
Map it out on a chart.
Once you have done the above then have a go yourself. Keeping multiple backups as you go. v1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 etc. That way you can go back if you mess a version up.
But if you can’t write down or map out exactly what you want then you and/or a third party will just end up going around in circles.
Dallas is very helpful but remember 1 person cannot possibly handle all the requests he gets in a certain timeframe.
Also, remember you have todo some homework yourself.
Since the start of time, people who try to help themselves have always prevailed in life. Trading is no different. Show some initiative and I am sure many will help where possible, probably without payment.
Don’t take the above as being criticised. Learn from it and maybe one day like Dallas and others your be the one helping fellow traders etc.
Then write down what each rule should do.
Then write down what each rule should not do.
Map it out on a chart.
Once you have done the above then have a go yourself. Keeping multiple backups as you go. v1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 etc. That way you can go back if you mess a version up.
But if you can’t write down or map out exactly what you want then you and/or a third party will just end up going around in circles.
Dallas is very helpful but remember 1 person cannot possibly handle all the requests he gets in a certain timeframe.
Also, remember you have todo some homework yourself.
Since the start of time, people who try to help themselves have always prevailed in life. Trading is no different. Show some initiative and I am sure many will help where possible, probably without payment.
Don’t take the above as being criticised. Learn from it and maybe one day like Dallas and others your be the one helping fellow traders etc.
Give this a try in PM, its been put together quickly between the races so not done any testing
Some wise words from Betscalper and Jimibt (I think on a previous thread)
As you've discovered with your own comments above if you pay for or get someone to do it the drawback it's very difficult and frustrating to make even the smallest of changes - which anyone using automation will tell you its often an ongoing thing trying new ideas making tweaks here and there etc so its well worth the effort learning how to do them
So to add on to what they've said for learning purposes come up with a separate basic idea on paper then try and build it from the bottom up just as a testing rule in PM, doesn't need to make money but just have a play about with each of the options to see what they do and how they could be used
Some wise words from Betscalper and Jimibt (I think on a previous thread)
As you've discovered with your own comments above if you pay for or get someone to do it the drawback it's very difficult and frustrating to make even the smallest of changes - which anyone using automation will tell you its often an ongoing thing trying new ideas making tweaks here and there etc so its well worth the effort learning how to do them
So to add on to what they've said for learning purposes come up with a separate basic idea on paper then try and build it from the bottom up just as a testing rule in PM, doesn't need to make money but just have a play about with each of the options to see what they do and how they could be used
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- BetScalper
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Henry
No offence meant but wasting 5 hours of your life trying to make money will piss allot of people off on this forum.
Many spend hours, days, weeks, months and yes, even years trying to work stuff out.
Dallas is spending allot of time on this because of his nature. Some will criticism him for doing so. Wrongly.
I said it previously, do your study and homework etc.
Peace and be good.
No offence meant but wasting 5 hours of your life trying to make money will piss allot of people off on this forum.
Many spend hours, days, weeks, months and yes, even years trying to work stuff out.
Dallas is spending allot of time on this because of his nature. Some will criticism him for doing so. Wrongly.
I said it previously, do your study and homework etc.
Peace and be good.

- ShaunWhite
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- Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:42 am
Dallas probably wrote it using v1.51.2.
You can download the latest version here....https://www.betangel.com/download/?product=BetAngelPro
I think as BetScalper mentioned, you really would put yourself in the driving seat if you managed to get your head around the building blocks of the automation.
I know only too well that things that worked perfectly for 6-8 months can (and will) start to show signs of age (i.e. they'll start to produce less profit). Unless you are willing/able to again go back to your original rules author you will find yourself in a frustrating situation.
As i mentioned on another thread, if it exists in your head, you can translate it to paper (flow charts, dependencies etc) and from that, you'll have a far easier job conceptulising how the various elements interact. More importantly, you'll know that you have the total IP on the idea and can be confident that your rule is not out there eroding your edge thro multiple use.
just my thoughts...
I know only too well that things that worked perfectly for 6-8 months can (and will) start to show signs of age (i.e. they'll start to produce less profit). Unless you are willing/able to again go back to your original rules author you will find yourself in a frustrating situation.
As i mentioned on another thread, if it exists in your head, you can translate it to paper (flow charts, dependencies etc) and from that, you'll have a far easier job conceptulising how the various elements interact. More importantly, you'll know that you have the total IP on the idea and can be confident that your rule is not out there eroding your edge thro multiple use.
just my thoughts...
Thanks, I know what you mean...however, although the automation is important, the key part of the success is the choosing of the horses, it doesn't rely on the favourite, 2nd favourite, etc. Each horse is picked by many other filters, criteria etc. So someone having this automation rule without the horses, is like someone having the finest gun in the world, if they haven't got the appropriate ammunition, they aren't going to be hitting any targets.
I fully intend on understanding BetAngel automation, however for the time being, I want a successful rule. In the months ahead I will then be able to come to terms with how it is put together etc. At the moment, I have so many things going on, I want to be able to map ahead...rather than getting bogged down in things I am not adept at. That will happen eventually.
I fully intend on understanding BetAngel automation, however for the time being, I want a successful rule. In the months ahead I will then be able to come to terms with how it is put together etc. At the moment, I have so many things going on, I want to be able to map ahead...rather than getting bogged down in things I am not adept at. That will happen eventually.
- ShaunWhite
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I hear what you're saying and I certainly wouldn't want to have to learn about horses. But what people are saying is that it's a racing certainty that your automation won't be profitable out of the box, it might be due to your selections, it might be something about the automation rules. You'll need to be able to find out. It's also the case that even simple automation often needs rules to be tweaked especially anything that greens up which is notoriously tricky.
I hope Dallas's file does the job. The best way to learn is by altering something that already works so I'm sure it'll all be demystified soon.
I hope Dallas's file does the job. The best way to learn is by altering something that already works so I'm sure it'll all be demystified soon.
When I see an automation rule, that I have tweaked, that doesn't green up a selection, I know it's because I have messed something up! I know it's nothing to do with the horse!
I put in an awful lot of work choosing these horses, I need a good automation rule that can put my selection procedure into action, I simply do not have the experience at the moment to write or tweak (not twerk) with any amount of confidence.
I put in an awful lot of work choosing these horses, I need a good automation rule that can put my selection procedure into action, I simply do not have the experience at the moment to write or tweak (not twerk) with any amount of confidence.