Only 2 0-0's in the Premiership so far and those were on the opening set of games of the season. = 2 out of 40
Does this mean that attacking is more prevalent?
Are defences worse now?
Is this just a blip?
Are the odds of 0-0's generally greater now than over the lst few seasons as more focus is on scoring than defending?
On average would you expect only 1 per round of 10 games?
What about the forthcoming round of Premierhsip games this weekend?
Is it worth backing this trend continuing or alternatively backing the 0-0 so that it goes more towards the norm over the full season?
Lack of 0-0's in the Premiership So Far
- superfrank
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The sample size is way too small to draw any conclusions.
- northbound
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Basically so far 5% of matches ended 0-0 in the EPL, same ratio as last season’s. Lower ratio compared to two (8%) and three (7%) seasons ago. Nothing major I’d say.
If you’re interested in this sort of thing, Germany Bundesliga 1 has had around 55-60% of Over2.5 Goal matches in recent seasons. This season so far, a whopping 81% in 28 matches.
But the most interesting stuff is happening in the Austria Bundesliga where 34 out of 36 matches (94%) this season had a goal in the first half. It’s usually a high scoring league though, so I’m not implying this is going to revert just yet.
If you’re interested in this sort of thing, Germany Bundesliga 1 has had around 55-60% of Over2.5 Goal matches in recent seasons. This season so far, a whopping 81% in 28 matches.
But the most interesting stuff is happening in the Austria Bundesliga where 34 out of 36 matches (94%) this season had a goal in the first half. It’s usually a high scoring league though, so I’m not implying this is going to revert just yet.
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Good advice @northbound
Good data @Memphis [my in-laws are all Foxes]
Yes it's early days in the Premiership but I was just wondering 3 weeks of no 0-0's so is it would looking at round 5 games to get back towards the norm --- or is this the new sign of things to come with goals and poor defences....
....for the fun of a couple of quid per game I may try out 0-0 in the 8 matches not with Liverpool or City though as they are goal machines......
Good data @Memphis [my in-laws are all Foxes]
Yes it's early days in the Premiership but I was just wondering 3 weeks of no 0-0's so is it would looking at round 5 games to get back towards the norm --- or is this the new sign of things to come with goals and poor defences....
....for the fun of a couple of quid per game I may try out 0-0 in the 8 matches not with Liverpool or City though as they are goal machines......
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As others have said, too small a sample size.
Although I would say, I'd expect less 0-0, and low-scoring matches overall, this season than last and most seasons.
Sarri vs Lampard
Mourinho (part of the season obv) vs OGS
Hughton vs Potter
Rafa vs Bruce
The three relegated teams vs the three promoted ones
...are all to varying degrees a switch to a less pragmatic, more expansive, and/or less defensively talented manager. That's 8 teams in a 20 team league moving towards what should result in more goals.
The thing with most widely reported league in the World is that these are all known factors and will be priced in, so I doubt there's anything to gain from going with an approach of opposing or going with a tendency.
Although I would say, I'd expect less 0-0, and low-scoring matches overall, this season than last and most seasons.
Sarri vs Lampard
Mourinho (part of the season obv) vs OGS
Hughton vs Potter
Rafa vs Bruce
The three relegated teams vs the three promoted ones
...are all to varying degrees a switch to a less pragmatic, more expansive, and/or less defensively talented manager. That's 8 teams in a 20 team league moving towards what should result in more goals.
The thing with most widely reported league in the World is that these are all known factors and will be priced in, so I doubt there's anything to gain from going with an approach of opposing or going with a tendency.
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i did a course on statistics many years ago and i learned about the 80%-20% rule
I am very familiar with the Parrot Principle, recent studies have shown that roughly 20% of trades produce 80% of the results which I believe to be pretty accurate.MemphisFlash wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:50 ami did a course on statistics many years ago and i learned about the 80%-20% rule
It's worth mentioning that there was a more recent study from 2005 that challenged the 80-20 rule, although only a minority actually believe that. They suggest that trading is composed of:
10% Luck
20% Skill
15% Concentrated power of will
5% Pleasure
50% Pain
I don't remember the name of the author but I've checked the numbers myself and they indeed add up to a 100%, so there may be something to it actually.
I thought it was 20/60/20%.MemphisFlash wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:50 ami did a course on statistics many years ago and i learned about the 80%-20% rule

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What is this word 'Luck' ?

'Luck' is a word primative people used before they discovered 'probablity'. If I believed winning required luck then I might as well throw away the spreadsheets and read the tea leaves instead.
btw At what odds does 'luck' kick in ? Winning a 50/50, a 10/1, or 10,000,000/1 ?
It is the chorus in this song, unlucky you have not heard it 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUvlSxo ... tu.be&t=22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUvlSxo ... tu.be&t=22
Well I'm glad someone's figured it out, those are some sweet lyrics
Sorry Shaun, as much as I'd love to discuss 'luck' I was only messing around, thought it was obvious!
Hopefully nobody ended up googling "Parrot Principle" and gotten a bunch of pictures of parrots.

Sorry Shaun, as much as I'd love to discuss 'luck' I was only messing around, thought it was obvious!

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Who the f##k have you been talking to??Kai wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:35 am
It's worth mentioning that there was a more recent study from 1996 to 2019 that challenged the 80-20 rule, although only a minority actually believe that. They suggest that dating Dublin_Flyer is composed of:
10% Luck
20% Skill
15% Concentrated power of will
5% Pleasure
50% Pain
I don't remember the name of the author but I've checked the numbers myself and they indeed add up to a 100%, so there may be something to it actually.

