Using Automation Green-up

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firlandsfarm
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It looks so simple … select the rule, set the Green-up target, add any conditions … no problem :) But life is never as it seems! I would welcome help on what I'm doing wrong with such a simple set-up and how I can achieve my goal. Yes I'm talking football, pun intended! :)

Note: this is experimental so I'm looking to Green-up with a £1 profit to test my actions.

I have my bets matched and live and want to Green-up when a £1 profit can be achieved so my rule looks like …
Green-upScreen.JPG
GreeningCondition.JPG
UnsuspendedCondition.JPG
As you can see there are 3 Green-up instructions at least 15 seconds apart to allow for Betfair In-play delays, looking for a profit of £1 but waiting 90 seconds since last unsuspended for the market to settle down.

However I am getting unexpected results, take Wolfsburg v Hoffenheim last night …

Log shows the match unsuspended for the kick-off, then a goal after 6 mins, the market unsuspends and just over 90 seconds later the green-up takes place but it only resulted in a profit of £0.12. Why did it Green-up if less than a £1 profit? Was 90 seconds insufficient for the market to settle down? But then you will notice there was a second attempt to Green-up after a further 20 seconds so I assume BA saw another opportunity to Green-up for the required £1 profit but again it fell well short!

23/09/2019 19:31:32: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
23/09/2019 19:31:32: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
23/09/2019 19:31:32: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
23/09/2019 19:37:14: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
23/09/2019 19:37:17: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
23/09/2019 19:38:53: [G_Auto] : Greened up Wolfsburg by Laying 2.44 at 4.1
23/09/2019 19:38:53: [G_Auto] : Greened up The Draw by Backing 2.50 at 4
23/09/2019 19:38:53: [G_Auto] : Greened up Hoffenheim by Laying 5.00 at 2
23/09/2019 19:39:13: [G_Auto] : Greened up Wolfsburg by Laying 0.06 at 4
23/09/2019 19:51:48: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
23/09/2019 19:52:07: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
23/09/2019 21:23:22: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

A worse example was the Braga v Maritimo match also last night (kick-off 19:00) …

Here the Log shows the market was suspended some 30 mins into the game and not unsuspended until 12 minutes later? (Did something strange happen?) Anyway some 5 minutes later the Green-up kicked in and was satisfied first time but instead of a profit of approximately £1 it resulted in a loss of £3.23! Why should that be, I wouldn't expect the odds to be sufficiently volatile 5 minutes after the previous unsuspension to cause that. Also the next suspension wasn't for a further 30 minutes so no question of market foresight there!

23/09/2019 19:02:36: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
23/09/2019 19:02:36: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
23/09/2019 19:02:37: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
23/09/2019 19:31:44: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
23/09/2019 19:43:20: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
23/09/2019 19:48:26: [G_Auto] : Greened up The Draw by Backing 3.17 at 3.15
23/09/2019 19:48:26: [G_Auto] : Greened up Braga by Laying 3.90 at 2.56
23/09/2019 19:48:26: [G_Auto] : Greened up Maritimo by Laying 2.93 at 3.4
23/09/2019 20:18:21: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
23/09/2019 20:23:21: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
23/09/2019 20:48:21: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
23/09/2019 20:53:21: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
23/09/2019 21:03:22: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

The third game I played last night (Sporting Lisbon v Famalicao) ended in a profit of £1.18 :D I post the log of that game simply for comparison purposes but I do notice that the first Green-up bets were spread over a 6 second period (I wouldn't have expected that). Then it cancelled the Green-up bet on Famalicao 4 seconds later and layed it again 5 seconds later. I have no idea what that was all about :(

23/09/2019 21:03:24: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
23/09/2019 21:03:24: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
23/09/2019 21:03:24: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
23/09/2019 21:28:03: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
23/09/2019 21:28:07: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
23/09/2019 21:29:43: [G_Auto] : Greened up Sporting Lisbon by Laying 8.33 at 1.2
23/09/2019 21:29:43: [G_Auto] : Greened up The Draw by Backing 1.22 at 8.2
23/09/2019 21:29:49: [G_Auto] : Greened up Famalicao by Laying 0.37 at 27
23/09/2019 21:29:53: [G_Auto] : Cancelling bets 179659863812
23/09/2019 21:29:58: [G_Auto] : Greened up Famalicao by Laying 0.36 at 28

I guess I'm asking how the Green-up action/condition works in practice just so that I can try and plan efficient use of it … the above analysis was not what I was expecting. :(
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Dallas
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You're using a 'Green All' rule with a 'close trade on selection profit condition'.

Use one of the following combinations;

'Green all selection rule' with a 'Green all profit condition'
'Close trade on selection rule' with a 'Close trade on selection profit condition'
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firlandsfarm
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Thanks Dallas, I'll be able to give it a try tonight :)

I have chosen the 'Green all selection rule' with a 'Green all profit condition' as that seems the logical one for Greening-up but just as a matter of interest (and learning) what is the difference between the two options?
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:21 pm
Thanks Dallas, I'll be able to give it a try tonight :)

I have chosen the 'Green all selection rule' with a 'Green all profit condition' as that seems the logical one for Greening-up but just as a matter of interest (and learning) what is the difference between the two options?
The close trade on selection and selection profit condition is for individual selections, whereas the green all rule and condition looks at the market as a whole
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firlandsfarm
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Ahh, OK, got it, thanks again
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Hi Dallas, just to let you know it's worked fine tonight … thanks again.
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