Help with error

[Realrocknrolla]

Hi folks,

Testing a new strategy and came across an error and rejection for the first time. Can anyone explain this to me!


4/27/2021 15:35:50: [G_Auto 1] : £ 1.00 Back bet placed on 4. Return To Sender at 100. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 231509074597
4/27/2021 15:35:50: [G_Auto 1] : £ 1.00 Back bet placed on 2. Blackhouse Polly at 100. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 231509074568
4/27/2021 15:35:56: [G_Auto 1] : An error occurred while updating bet persistence: The entire order has been rejected.
4/27/2021 15:35:56: [G_Auto 1] : Modify bet persistence 231509074568 from 'Cancel' to 'Take SP'

4/27/2021 15:35:56: [G_Auto 1] : Modify bet persistence 231509074597 from 'Cancel' to 'Take SP'


4/27/2021 15:35:56: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

Thanks in advance as always

RRR

[Realrocknrolla]

Nudge nudge

[Trader Pat]

Not sure exactly what causes it but I've had similiar issues when using minimum stakes

[Realrocknrolla]

Not sure exactly what causes it but I've had similiar issues when using minimum stakes

Ok bud. No idea either.

Thanks mate.

[Trader Pat]

I remember thinking it might have been because of lay bets not meeting the minimum liability but I don't think it was that because it seemed to be a bit random. When I increased stakes a little though it happened less often.

[Archery1969]

I could well be wrong but I didn't think you could Take SP on £1 bets. Don't they have to be a minimum of £2 or £10 in the UK ?

[Realrocknrolla]

I could well be wrong but I didn't think you could Take SP on £1 bets. Don't they have to be a minimum of £2 or £10 in the UK ?

Unsure on that. Not had any issues before

[Archery1969]

I could well be wrong but I didn't think you could Take SP on £1 bets. Don't they have to be a minimum of £2 or £10 in the UK ?

Unsure on that. Not had any issues before

From Betfair:

What is the minimum stake for an SP bet ?

The minimum stake for a back bet at SP is £2 (or the local currency equivalent). The minimum liability if laying is £10 (or the local currency equivalent).

[Dallas]

Archery is correct regarding the minimum stakes so it would of been rejected when BF went to process it

But from your log I think you were just unlucky in you tried to 'take SP' at the exact time BF suspended the market (which I assume was to turn it in play), so the task of updating the bet to take SP couldn't be completed

[Realrocknrolla]

Archery is correct regarding the minimum stakes so it would of been rejected when BF went to process it

But from your log I think you were just unlucky in you tried to 'take SP' at the exact time BF suspended the market (which I assume was to turn it in play), so the task of updating the bet to take SP couldn't be completed

Thanks Dallas and Archery.

It makes sense, just never seen it before. I’ll up the ante for this test. No drama.

[goat68]

I had this error the other day. I am fairly sure it was because my unmatched bet had already been matched by the time the takesp instruction got to betfair. Check your Betfair bet history, was the bet actually matched ?

[Realrocknrolla]

Yo

No mate, wasn’t matched... winner was 9.99bsp too.

Its no biggy. Im 6 weeks in testing a strat at £1 stakes.

Upsizing is no problem as the trend line is 45• plus!

[Archery1969]

But won't you get banned shortly for constantly betting below the minimum ?

[Realrocknrolla]

But won't you get banned shortly for constantly betting below the minimum ?

Unsure Archie mate.

Paying plenty of commission on other markets.

It’s at £2 now anyway. I prefer realtime than practice.

[The Silk Run]

Personally, I have been using below minimum stakes for almost three years 0.10 - 0.50, NEVER had a problem, nor have I heard of anyone else. Obviously, my orders don't meet Betfair SP criteria !!! Developers using these stakes daily to live test systems.