Indication of a runner losing its steam?

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Ryanolifelix
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I have heard Peter Webb talking about runners losing their steam.

Could anyone give advice on what indications are there at noticing a runner losing its steam on a bounce back.

Thanks. Ryan.
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wearthefoxhat
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Ryanolifelix wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:34 pm
I have heard Peter Webb talking about runners losing their steam.

Could anyone give advice on what indications are there at noticing a runner losing its steam on a bounce back.

Thanks. Ryan.
There's probably a more scientific calculation based on speed per furlong/individual horses ability..etc

When watching a race, I tend to look to see how animated a jockey is. The better, or more experienced a jockey is, the more likely they are to encourage a horse to respond to either by hands-heels drive/use of whip/bumping in the saddle. Retired jockey, A.P.McCoy was a good example of literally sawing a horse in half and getting up to win from a near hopeless position.

The less experienced, weaker jockeys may not get the desired response and by watching them carefully, will give you the first sign(s) of a horse starting to either lose focus or energy, or both.

If a jockey is unanimated in the saddle, then generally the horse has more in hand. Sometimes, you see jockeys do this and finish unplaced. Then on the next run, a jockey change is made and it hoses up in similar conditions. This is harder for them to do nowadays, as there are cameras everywhere, the stewards/public have the ability to watch replays on-line whenever required.
andy28
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I maybe wrong but I read it as a horse losing it's steam pre off.

In play your right you want to see the horse on the bit until the Jock asks the question, horse comes off the bit a long way out then your in trouble
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wearthefoxhat
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andy28 wrote:
Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:32 am
I maybe wrong but I read it as a horse losing it's steam pre off.

In play your right you want to see the horse on the bit until the Jock asks the question, horse comes off the bit a long way out then your in trouble

Oops, you could be right....
Ryanolifelix
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Yes, I was referring to pre off trading.
Sorry, I should of been more specific in my explanation.
Good advice though!!
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