Hi all,
Just scribbling some ideas for manual/auto trading strategies and would like to know what the green up calculation is so I can work out number of ticks required at a specific price to achieve a positive risk/reward. Better than 1/1, aiming for 2/1 minimum.
I read in an old post that it was; odds multiplied by stake, divided by exit odds, but this just gives the free bet amount on a selection, not the total hedged across all runners amount.
TIA
What is the green up calculation?
For a free bet you don't need to calculate anything just place an opposing bet using the same stake as your opening betBrovashift wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:35 pmHi all,
Just scribbling some ideas for manual/auto trading strategies and would like to know what the green up calculation is so I can work out number of ticks required at a specific price to achieve a positive risk/reward. Better than 1/1, aiming for 2/1 minimum.
I read in an old post that it was; odds multiplied by stake, divided by exit odds, but this just gives the free bet amount on a selection, not the total hedged across all runners amount.
TIA
The calculation for a green up/hedged bet has never changed its always been Stake multiply by entry odds & divided by current best exit odds
The trading equation is: back stake * back price = lay stake * lay priceBrovashift wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:35 pmHi all,
Just scribbling some ideas for manual/auto trading strategies and would like to know what the green up calculation is so I can work out number of ticks required at a specific price to achieve a positive risk/reward. Better than 1/1, aiming for 2/1 minimum.
I read in an old post that it was; odds multiplied by stake, divided by exit odds, but this just gives the free bet amount on a selection, not the total hedged across all runners amount.
TIA
So back stake = lay stake * lay price / back price,
back price = back price * lay stake * lay price / back stake,
and the same for calculating back stake/odds.
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Hi Dallas,Dallas wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:44 pmFor a free bet you don't need to calculate anything just place an opposing bet using the same stake as your opening betBrovashift wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:35 pmHi all,
Just scribbling some ideas for manual/auto trading strategies and would like to know what the green up calculation is so I can work out number of ticks required at a specific price to achieve a positive risk/reward. Better than 1/1, aiming for 2/1 minimum.
I read in an old post that it was; odds multiplied by stake, divided by exit odds, but this just gives the free bet amount on a selection, not the total hedged across all runners amount.
TIA
The calculation for a green up/hedged bet has never changed its always been Stake multiply by entry odds & divided by current best exit odds
Just pressing buttons in practice mode and if I place a £10 back @7.0 and want to green up @6.0 = £1.67
I can'y figure out how that 1.67 is calculated. When I multiply stake by entry odds (7.0) & divide by exit odds (6.0), using a calculator I get 11.666, which with greening button turned off shows a free bet of £10 @6.0, so assumed the discrepancy to be commission or something?
What am I missing?

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Hi Derek,Derek27 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:45 pmThe trading equation is: back price * back odds = lay price * lay oddsBrovashift wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:35 pmHi all,
Just scribbling some ideas for manual/auto trading strategies and would like to know what the green up calculation is so I can work out number of ticks required at a specific price to achieve a positive risk/reward. Better than 1/1, aiming for 2/1 minimum.
I read in an old post that it was; odds multiplied by stake, divided by exit odds, but this just gives the free bet amount on a selection, not the total hedged across all runners amount.
TIA
So back price = lay price * lay odds / back odds,
lay odds = back price * back odds / lay price,
and the same for calculating back price/odds.
Does "price" = stake... ye?
The £11.67 is the stake required as it includes the greening part of the betBrovashift wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:29 pmHi Dallas,Dallas wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:44 pmFor a free bet you don't need to calculate anything just place an opposing bet using the same stake as your opening betBrovashift wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:35 pmHi all,
Just scribbling some ideas for manual/auto trading strategies and would like to know what the green up calculation is so I can work out number of ticks required at a specific price to achieve a positive risk/reward. Better than 1/1, aiming for 2/1 minimum.
I read in an old post that it was; odds multiplied by stake, divided by exit odds, but this just gives the free bet amount on a selection, not the total hedged across all runners amount.
TIA
The calculation for a green up/hedged bet has never changed its always been Stake multiply by entry odds & divided by current best exit odds
Just pressing buttons in practice mode and if I place a £10 back @7.0 and want to green up @6.0 = £1.67
I can'y figure out how that 1.67 is calculated. When I multiply stake by entry odds (7.0) & divide by exit odds (6.0), using a calculator I get 11.666, which with greening button turned off shows a free bet of £10 @6.0, so assumed the discrepancy to be commission or something?
What am I missing?![]()
if the actual green/hedged up bet is matched your profit would be £1.67, which is the difference between your original stake of £10 and your exit stake of £11.67
Sorry, yes, that should be stake.Brovashift wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:30 pmHi Derek,Derek27 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:45 pmThe trading equation is: back price * back odds = lay price * lay oddsBrovashift wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:35 pmHi all,
Just scribbling some ideas for manual/auto trading strategies and would like to know what the green up calculation is so I can work out number of ticks required at a specific price to achieve a positive risk/reward. Better than 1/1, aiming for 2/1 minimum.
I read in an old post that it was; odds multiplied by stake, divided by exit odds, but this just gives the free bet amount on a selection, not the total hedged across all runners amount.
TIA
So back price = lay price * lay odds / back odds,
lay odds = back price * back odds / lay price,
and the same for calculating back price/odds.
Does "price" = stake... ye?

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Ah right OK I see...Dallas wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:42 pmThe £11.67 is the stake required as it includes the greening part of the betBrovashift wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:29 pmHi Dallas,Dallas wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:44 pm
For a free bet you don't need to calculate anything just place an opposing bet using the same stake as your opening bet
The calculation for a green up/hedged bet has never changed its always been Stake multiply by entry odds & divided by current best exit odds
Just pressing buttons in practice mode and if I place a £10 back @7.0 and want to green up @6.0 = £1.67
I can'y figure out how that 1.67 is calculated. When I multiply stake by entry odds (7.0) & divide by exit odds (6.0), using a calculator I get 11.666, which with greening button turned off shows a free bet of £10 @6.0, so assumed the discrepancy to be commission or something?
What am I missing?![]()
if the actual green/hedged up bet is matched your profit would be £1.67, which is the difference between your original stake of £10 and your exit stake of £11.67
So if I wanted to just end up with my hedged amount, am I correct in thinking:
stake x odds / exit odds, minus stake?
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Derek27 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:47 pmSorry, yes, that should be stake.![]()

