Has anyone notice anything different with inPlay prices?

[Brovashift]

Hi all,

Been a while since I've been on the forum... Just wonderig if anyone has noticed any changes with the speed of prices when trading inPlay??

Quite often now I am seeing prices trading down as low as 1.20-1.10 when the winner is still back in 4th and against the rail. Just witnessed it again now at 18:30 Leopardstown, on a fairly competitive race, fav was back in 4th or 5th and had to bully his way out from off the rail to get a clear run, but his price was saying he'd won when he still had a lot of ground to make up in final 1-2f!

Could be 18:30 liquidity of course, but I've noticed this throughout the day for a while now. Is there less money about inPlay now, or could it be people using TPD? I don't think it's drones because I know people who are using drones and they're saying the same thing... Unless there's a new drone provider with better speeds maybe. I'm also hearing more and more of people getting banned from Betfair for depositing too much money in one go, putting the kibosh on their inPlay trading career, even when profitable and using proper stake management e.g 5% of bank.

Be interesting to hear others thoughts...

TIA

[megarain]

The drone feeds can be attached to AI bots, which are clearly reacting far faster than manual traders.

Maybe its them.

[ForFolksSake]

Quite often now I am seeing prices trading down as low as 1.20-1.10 when the winner is still back in 4th but his price was saying he'd won when he still had a lot of ground to make up in final 1-2f!

Just out of interest can you tell me what price says a horse has won/lost
Time to worry about liquidity in-play is when your 'winning' bets don't get matched

[jamesedwards]

Hi all,

Been a while since I've been on the forum... Just wonderig if anyone has noticed any changes with the speed of prices when trading inPlay??

Quite often now I am seeing prices trading down as low as 1.20-1.10 when the winner is still back in 4th and against the rail. Just witnessed it again now at 18:30 Leopardstown, on a fairly competitive race, fav was back in 4th or 5th and had to bully his way out from off the rail to get a clear run, but his price was saying he'd won when he still had a lot of ground to make up in final 1-2f!

Could be 18:30 liquidity of course, but I've noticed this throughout the day for a while now. Is there less money about inPlay now, or could it be people using TPD? I don't think it's drones because I know people who are using drones and they're saying the same thing... Unless there's a new drone provider with better speeds maybe. I'm also hearing more and more of people getting banned from Betfair for depositing too much money in one go, putting the kibosh on their inPlay trading career, even when profitable and using proper stake management e.g 5% of bank.

Be interesting to hear others thoughts...

TIA

In-play profitability massively ebbs and flows for me, and I've never been able to put a finger on why. Can fill my boots one day, then find myself scrapping for a few quid the next.

Nothing significant has changed in the last year that I know of. If you're only taking prices then you're at a big disadvantage because those offering can cancel without any delay and therefore have a huge latency advantage no matter how fast your pics are. Perhaps they are getting better at cancelling?

GPS is only available en masse at ATR tracks (via TPD). RTV tracks have technical availability for GPS and might be being used by some clever tech whizzes, but BFL pictures are only about 0.5 secs behind live anyway, which is the same latency as drone.

[jamesedwards]

Quite often now I am seeing prices trading down as low as 1.20-1.10 when the winner is still back in 4th but his price was saying he'd won when he still had a lot of ground to make up in final 1-2f!

Just out of interest can you tell me what price says a horse has won/lost
Time to worry about liquidity in-play is when your 'winning' bets don't get matched

In British Isles racing I'd estimate there are about four 1.01 losers per week, and about one 1000 winner per month.

[ForFolksSake]

Hi all,

Been a while since I've been on the forum... Just wonderig if anyone has noticed any changes with the speed of prices when trading inPlay??

Quite often now I am seeing prices trading down as low as 1.20-1.10 when the winner is still back in 4th and against the rail. Just witnessed it again now at 18:30 Leopardstown, on a fairly competitive race, fav was back in 4th or 5th and had to bully his way out from off the rail to get a clear run, but his price was saying he'd won when he still had a lot of ground to make up in final 1-2f!

Could be 18:30 liquidity of course, but I've noticed this throughout the day for a while now. Is there less money about inPlay now, or could it be people using TPD? I don't think it's drones because I know people who are using drones and they're saying the same thing... Unless there's a new drone provider with better speeds maybe. I'm also hearing more and more of people getting banned from Betfair for depositing too much money in one go, putting the kibosh on their inPlay trading career, even when profitable and using proper stake management e.g 5% of bank.

Be interesting to hear others thoughts...

TIA

In-play profitability massively ebbs and flows for me, and I've never been able to put a finger on why. Can fill my boots one day, then find myself scrapping for a few quid the next.

That's the nature of in-play, even the most consistent of strategies will have their up's and down's on a daily basis.
The main thing is to be in profit at the end of the day/month/year

[ForFolksSake]

Quite often now I am seeing prices trading down as low as 1.20-1.10 when the winner is still back in 4th but his price was saying he'd won when he still had a lot of ground to make up in final 1-2f!

Just out of interest can you tell me what price says a horse has won/lost
Time to worry about liquidity in-play is when your 'winning' bets don't get matched

In British Isles racing I'd estimate there are about four 1.01 losers per week, and about one 1000 winner per month.

Exactly, the price of a horse at any point in-play doesn't tell you anything about it's chance of winning/losing
whether it's priced at 1.01 or 1000/1
1.01 losers in the past week
Sat Punch 13: 57 Great Bear sh
Sat Bev 14:05 Maw Lam 1/2L
Mon Windsor 18:10 Adrestia 2L

[arbitrage16]

I've found liquidity has been holding up pretty well, especially now summer is in full swing