Good time to abandon ship?
- abgespaced
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Link here to the financial statments.
https://www.flutter.com/media/a0rj0ng5/ ... pdated.pdf
My account just got closed and I'm really considering if it's worth fighting for it.
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They're talking about tranformative costs. Could be. Share price is ok. 7billion revenues gives them a lot of scope. But I'm an idiot on these matters, just speculating.abgespaced wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:19 amScreenshot 2024-07-24 at 11.13.22 am.png
That's Flutter's latest financial statement. $1.2B loss in one year is astounding. Much worse when you consider it's at least 3 years consecutive losses (could be even more but i didn't go back further than three years).
Link here to the financial statments.
https://www.flutter.com/media/a0rj0ng5/ ... pdated.pdf
My account just got closed and I'm really considering if it's worth fighting for it.
Although, if you believe they've transformed successfully, now could be a moment to speculate with cash
I won't.

- abgespaced
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Revenue doesn't mean much when your expenses far outweigh the net income received. 4 years of declining equity is a HUGE red flag and likely indicative of a business that is about to fail. Or at the very least having to prune off its unprofitable sectors.greenmark wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:02 amThey're talking about tranformative costs. Could be. Share price is ok. 7billion revenues gives them a lot of scope. But I'm an idiot on these matters, just speculating.abgespaced wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:19 amScreenshot 2024-07-24 at 11.13.22 am.png
That's Flutter's latest financial statement. $1.2B loss in one year is astounding. Much worse when you consider it's at least 3 years consecutive losses (could be even more but i didn't go back further than three years).
Link here to the financial statments.
https://www.flutter.com/media/a0rj0ng5/ ... pdated.pdf
My account just got closed and I'm really considering if it's worth fighting for it.
Although, if you believe they've transformed successfully, now could be a moment to speculate with cash
I won't.![]()
I think that pruning is what they're saying has impacted the bottom line. Whether thats true is another matter. The market seems fairly happy to wait and see.abgespaced wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:59 amRevenue doesn't mean much when your expenses far outweigh the net income received. 4 years of declining equity is a HUGE red flag and likely indicative of a business that is about to fail. Or at the very least having to prune off its unprofitable sectors.greenmark wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:02 amThey're talking about tranformative costs. Could be. Share price is ok. 7billion revenues gives them a lot of scope. But I'm an idiot on these matters, just speculating.abgespaced wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:19 amScreenshot 2024-07-24 at 11.13.22 am.png
That's Flutter's latest financial statement. $1.2B loss in one year is astounding. Much worse when you consider it's at least 3 years consecutive losses (could be even more but i didn't go back further than three years).
Link here to the financial statments.
https://www.flutter.com/media/a0rj0ng5/ ... pdated.pdf
My account just got closed and I'm really considering if it's worth fighting for it.
Although, if you believe they've transformed successfully, now could be a moment to speculate with cash
I won't.![]()
For sure, if it goes pear-shaped the share price will reflect that pretty quickly.
Hope you get your account sorted soon. Seen plenty of posts on here that suggest talking to BF can reverse a closure triggered by some automatuc criteria. Good luck.
- jamesedwards
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Share price is very healthy.
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- Crazyskier
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I concur. Turnover for show, profit for dough. Though if it continues in a similar vein the vultures at the likes of Apax Partners and Blackrock, etc will be circling.abgespaced wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:59 amRevenue doesn't mean much when your expenses far outweigh the net income received. 4 years of declining equity is a HUGE red flag and likely indicative of a business that is about to fail. Or at the very least having to prune off its unprofitable sectors.greenmark wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:02 amThey're talking about tranformative costs. Could be. Share price is ok. 7billion revenues gives them a lot of scope. But I'm an idiot on these matters, just speculating.abgespaced wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:19 amScreenshot 2024-07-24 at 11.13.22 am.png
That's Flutter's latest financial statement. $1.2B loss in one year is astounding. Much worse when you consider it's at least 3 years consecutive losses (could be even more but i didn't go back further than three years).
Link here to the financial statments.
https://www.flutter.com/media/a0rj0ng5/ ... pdated.pdf
My account just got closed and I'm really considering if it's worth fighting for it.
Although, if you believe they've transformed successfully, now could be a moment to speculate with cash
I won't.![]()
CS
Guess the question is how long do you wait to see the transformative costs translate to profit?Crazyskier wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:37 pmI concur. Turnover for show, profit for dough. Though if it continues in a similar vein the vultures at the likes of Apax Partners and Blackrock, etc will be circling.abgespaced wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:59 amRevenue doesn't mean much when your expenses far outweigh the net income received. 4 years of declining equity is a HUGE red flag and likely indicative of a business that is about to fail. Or at the very least having to prune off its unprofitable sectors.greenmark wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:02 am
They're talking about tranformative costs. Could be. Share price is ok. 7billion revenues gives them a lot of scope. But I'm an idiot on these matters, just speculating.
Although, if you believe they've transformed successfully, now could be a moment to speculate with cash
I won't.![]()
CS
It's a bizarre fact that it certainly does cost money to cut costs. But if the underlying business is sound then it's worth it in the medium to long term.
I guess the problem with flutter is they are heavily IT dependent. If you scrimp on IT you're a dead duck. I have no doubt about that at all.
- Crazyskier
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Oh undoubtedly - they aren't a traditional bookmaker with shops to accept bets; BF are 100% reliant on a digital offering for both sportsbook and exchange so I imagine they are hugely invested in both hardware and software R&D to keep the show on the road.greenmark wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:48 pmGuess the question is how long do you wait to see the transformative costs translate to profit?Crazyskier wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:37 pmI concur. Turnover for show, profit for dough. Though if it continues in a similar vein the vultures at the likes of Apax Partners and Blackrock, etc will be circling.abgespaced wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:59 am
Revenue doesn't mean much when your expenses far outweigh the net income received. 4 years of declining equity is a HUGE red flag and likely indicative of a business that is about to fail. Or at the very least having to prune off its unprofitable sectors.
CS
It's a bizarre fact that it certainly does cost money to cut costs. But if the underlying business is sound then it's worth it in the medium to long term.
I guess the problem with flutter is they are heavily IT dependent. If you scrimp on IT you're a dead duck. I have no doubt about that at all.
CS