Man City to be relegated from Premier League

[Euler]

At the start of the season the markets are pricing in Man City relegation at <=10's. Clearly the market thinks there is a good chance they are relegated as a punishment for their 115 charges of financial misconduct.

You can lay them for the title at just under 3's

One of three short priced relegation candidates would also escape the drop if this happens.

[jamesedwards]

1 in 10 feels about right to me. Was 1 in 15 all through the summer until the September hearing date was confirmed, I guess in case it dragged into 2025/26 season.

I'm thinking both parties will be happy to settle for guilty for the lesser charges and a fine.

[greenmark]

Not a chance. It would tear down the EPL's reputation. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas. Folks might make some money along the way but I don't see a coalition tht would want the last 4 years wiped out. Winning in the courts doesn't equate to winning on the pitch. The EPL should have acted sooner and if Man C go it would swivel attention on the EPL's governance.
I stand to be corrected but I can't see Man C being punished beyod fines. I think Man C owners can foot that bill.

[jamesedwards]

Based on the rules the 10% chance of relegation is based solely on City being relegated as result of a large points deduction. If City were to get thrown out or disqualified during the season or after then bets will be voided.

Makes the lay even greater value IMO.

Which teams will be relegated this season?
If a team is relegated from a league because, at the end of a season, it has finished within the relegation positions which are relevant to that league (i.e. usually any of the bottom three league positions), bets on that team to be relegated will be settled as winning bets.

If a team is otherwise disqualified, thrown out or removed from a league (i.e. in circumstances other than those where it has finished the season within the relevant relegation positions): (i) if such team is disqualified, thrown out or removed from the league before the relevant season has started, all bets on the affected market will be void (and a new market will subsequently be loaded) and (ii) if such team is disqualified, thrown out or removed from the league after the relevant season has started (or a determination is made by the applicable governing body, during the season, that the team will be thrown out or removed from the league following the season’s conclusion), all bets on the affected team will be void. For the avoidance of doubt, if a points deduction is imposed on a team such that it finishes the season within the relegation places which are relevant to the applicable league, bets on that team to be relegated will be settled as winning bets.

[wearthefoxhat]

With 115 offences to be taken into account, how can they possibly avoid being relegated with a series of large points deductions.

Bad finance from clubs have often led to clubs going into administration, getting 15 to 30 points. If it's not done in the right way, the following season could start with a similar points deduction. (ie: Leeds 2007 in League one). The difference is, Man City have a bottomless pit financially and are a world away from ever going into administration....unless..... they are hit with a fine so big, after paying it, they are effectively skint and have to go into administration.

If it then depends on a vote from the other clubs, they'll be doomed.

If the premier league lump all 115 into a bundle and just give them a cheeky fine, other clubs might take them to court. It could be a shit-show.

[jamesedwards]

With 115 offences to be taken into account, how can they possibly avoid being relegated with a series of large points deductions.

Bad finance from clubs have often led to clubs going into administration, getting 15 to 30 points. If it's not done in the right way, the following season could start with a similar points deduction. (ie: Leeds 2007 in League one). The difference is, Man City have a bottomless pit financially and are a world away from ever going into administration....unless..... they are hit with a fine so big, after paying it, they are effectively skint and have to go into administration.

If it then depends on a vote from the other clubs, they'll be doomed.

If the premier league lump all 115 into a bundle and just give them a cheeky fine, other clubs might take them to court. It could be a shit-show.

The whole "115 charges" thing is just a soundbite really. The vast majority of the 115 are multi-duplications of the same transgression, or accusations of failing to co-operate sufficiently with investigations.

There could be grounds for points deduction for every year they overspent vs set limits (up to 9 seasons) if they are found guilty of doing so, which could add up to 30-40 points based on Notts F and Everton as precedents. Can't see the PL throwing them out because it wouldn't be in either party's interests. Most likely they will be found guilty of the lesser charges and given a fine.

[Archery1969]

The following should happen:

- Relegated to League 2
- 100 points deduction
- £100 million fine
- Stadium demolished for social housing

[greenmark]

The following should happen:

- Relegated to League 2
- 100 points deduction
- £100 million fine
- Stadium demolished for social housing

A considered view for a better EPL.
Seiously though I think back over 30 years when a colleague of mine opined on the upcoming professionalsim of Rugby Union that it would ruin everything. Whether professionalism of Rugby Union or the staggering commercialisatiion of the EPL has been a good thing? I don't know. I;m beginning to think this isn't working for the fans.
Brilliant for the players. And of course the hangers on, agents, directors etc. But the players and fans are all that matters. The players have profited, the fans have been skinned, but they choose that. They can can walk away at any time. If they did in numbers. The EPL product would be as dead as a dodo.

[Archery1969]

The following should happen:

- Relegated to League 2
- 100 points deduction
- £100 million fine
- Stadium demolished for social housing

A considered view for a better EPL.
Seiously though I think back over 30 years when a colleague of mine opined on the upcoming professionalsim of Rugby Union that it would ruin everything. Whether professionalism of Rugby Union or the staggering commercialisatiion of the EPL has been a good thing? I don't know. I;m beginning to think this isn't working for the fans.
Brilliant for the players. And of course the hangers on, agents, directors etc. But the players and fans are all that matters. The players have profited, the fans have been skinned, but they choose that. They can can walk away at any time. If they did in numbers. The EPL product would be as dead as a dodo.

On a serious note. If they are guilty of 1/3 of the aledged charges then they should have the book thrown at them. If they don't then other teams who were effectively relagated will have a good case for, dear I say it, arguing there is a, two tier system. Just because ManC is a big club with great players and a worldwide fan base should not play into it. If charges proven then they need to be punished and then some.

But I guess they can afford well paid lawyers, who will argue their case and keep lodging appeal after appeal, then after 5 years of litigation everyone will have forgotten about what they did.

[Kai]

worldwide fan base

Any City fans on here then?

To explain all this legal mumbo-jumbo to the rest of us, so we can find some value

https://x.com/paddypower/status/1823282118811607385

[Dallas]

worldwide fan base

Any City fans on here then?

Wash your mouth out!

[jamesedwards]

worldwide fan base

Any City fans on here then?

Wash your mouth out!

*ahem*

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[Kai]

Any City fans on here then?

Wash your mouth out!

*ahem*


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Is that you James

Is my memory failing me for once or did you not have the Wolves club logo as avatar in the past

[jamesedwards]

Is that you James

Me.

Is my memory failing me for once or did you not have the Wolves club logo as avatar in the past

Not me.

[Kai]

Ah okay, this explains much, not many people defend City's case at every opportunity

Paddy Power spot on as always!