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FrankColumbo
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Hello everyone

After a long gap, i have decide to try again at automated bots. I have a few questions that i couldn't find the answers too searching the forum.
Note: all amounts and odds are for readability - I am not not mad.

Q1. i would like to place £100 on a selection x of a race. I have a fill or kill bet setting that does what it is meant to do. I also have a rule that if there is greater than 0 zero matched bets on that selection, do not place another bet. This works fine most of the time. Sometimes, only £50 is taken and, as my rules state, it kills the remaining stake and does not enter the selection again. is there a way i can set this rule up so that it 'knows' there is £50 still left and places a fill or kill bet of £50?

Q2a Is there a way for Guardian to, each morning at x time, load UK and Ire races and then apply an automation rule to each of the markets?

Q2b Is there a way for Guardian to, each morning at x time, load UK and Ire races and then apply one of 3 automation rules to a market, the market choice will be defined by a pre set of rules? e.g. apply RuleBot1 to all Sandown races, apply RuleBot2 to all races between 1000 and 1700 etc

Q3 is there a thread(s), videos etc that discuss how to handle VAR / suspensions in a football match?

Q4 I have noticed that sometimes (i dont know the terminology) the available money can be really thin on top. e.g. back odds 3.05, available £100, back odds 3.10, available £1, back odds 3.15, available £1, back odds 3.25, available £1. Is there a way in bot rules I can ... er ... handle / ignore the thinness when automating an entry point?

Where I am at:
I have been recording data for a while, using that, I have made some hypothesis, apply them in practice mode (as expected) different outcomes, now I am i live (as expected) different outcomes again). I am using low stakes and am now not winning lots and not losing lots (averaged out to losing about £1.50 oer day), but the data i am getting is worth it!

I am goint to sneek in another question
Q5 Having listened to Peter and read forums etc. I 'know' that you shouldn't apply 1 strategy to all the events in 1 sport. I am currently doing so for purposes of getting data / results. In your opinion - is this approach wrong or a waste of time / money or do you think there is value in doing this while testing live with real money?

Frank
Fugazi
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Interested in Q2 also.
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jamesedwards
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FrankColumbo wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:16 pm
Hello everyone

After a long gap, i have decide to try again at automated bots. I have a few questions that i couldn't find the answers too searching the forum.
Note: all amounts and odds are for readability - I am not not mad.
This means you are mad? ;)
FrankColumbo wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:16 pm

Q1. i would like to place £100 on a selection x of a race. I have a fill or kill bet setting that does what it is meant to do. I also have a rule that if there is greater than 0 zero matched bets on that selection, do not place another bet. This works fine most of the time. Sometimes, only £50 is taken and, as my rules state, it kills the remaining stake and does not enter the selection again. is there a way i can set this rule up so that it 'knows' there is £50 still left and places a fill or kill bet of £50?
You can do something that creates a stored value (SV) that is £100 minus existing matched bets value, and then place a back bet at that SV.
FrankColumbo wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:16 pm

Q2a Is there a way for Guardian to, each morning at x time, load UK and Ire races and then apply an automation rule to each of the markets?
No. You would need to investigate a separate macro to do this for you.
FrankColumbo wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:16 pm

Q2b Is there a way for Guardian to, each morning at x time, load UK and Ire races and then apply one of 3 automation rules to a market, the market choice will be defined by a pre set of rules? e.g. apply RuleBot1 to all Sandown races, apply RuleBot2 to all races between 1000 and 1700 etc
Personal preference; I prefer having just one rulefile for everything. That rulesfile uses relevant conditions to apply different rules to different markets based on relevant conditions.
FrankColumbo wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:16 pm

Q4 I have noticed that sometimes (i dont know the terminology) the available money can be really thin on top. e.g. back odds 3.05, available £100, back odds 3.10, available £1, back odds 3.15, available £1, back odds 3.25, available £1. Is there a way in bot rules I can ... er ... handle / ignore the thinness when automating an entry point?
You could create an SV of the highest available price with a minimum of volume available and use that SV to place a bet.
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FrankColumbo
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Thank you Mr Edwards - off to investigate now.
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Dublin_Flyer
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FrankColumbo wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:16 pm

Q2b Is there a way for Guardian to, each morning at x time, load UK and Ire races and then apply one of 3 automation rules to a market, the market choice will be defined by a pre set of rules? e.g. apply RuleBot1 to all Sandown races, apply RuleBot2 to all races between 1000 and 1700 etc

Frank
I'd agree with Jamesedwards reply to this, it's much easier to amalgamate your rules and use conditions than have a different bunch of rules for tracks/distances/hurdle/flat/chase etc. The only outlier seems to be Lingfield during the summer, when it's a mixed card so you have to check. I think this year it's been 3 AW races then 3 or 4 flat races on mixed cards, but looking at Guardian/Market Info I don't think there's a way to know for sure unless you check Racing Post website to see if it's AW or flat.
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