UK General Election 2029 - Trading ONLY thread

[jamesedwards]

Likely four years out, but it's already looking like a three-way fight for most seats.

How can we hope to return any kind of majority government with three parties squeezing into a two-party system? It's going to be a mess.

Conservative/Reform alliance, anyone?

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[Archery1969]

Likely four years out, but it's already looking like a three-way fight for most seats.

How can we hope to return any kind of majority government with three parties squeezing into a two-party system? It's going to be a mess.

Conservative/Reform alliance, anyone?


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Labour will drift allot between now and then with reform shrinking once they get hold of Musks money.

[Vaz0202]

My first thoughts are lay Reform. No chance will they get enough seats to form a government, then again, if they get ‘Musk Money’ and a monopoly on X + client journalism, anything becomes possible.

[Archery1969]

My first thoughts are lay Reform. No chance will they get enough seats to form a government, then again, if they get ‘Musk Money’ and a monopoly on X + client journalism, anything becomes possible.

Trump is in for the next 4 years. He, Musk and Farage are friends. Trump unofficially wants to punish Labour for what happened during the US election.

Trump won’t officially go against the UK or current leadership but indirectly, he will, for sure.

I suspect Reform UK will come into allot of money and publicity in a very short space of time. Money brings power and allot of airtime on TV, Radio and Social Media. If Reform keeps its nose clean then it could do allot of damage to the UK establishment and persuade the UK electorate etc.

[Vaz0202]

I wonder if Parliament will put forward a change in law with relation to party structure. The whole leadership of Reform is very unusual in British politics

[Archery1969]

I wonder if Parliament will put forward a change in law with relation to party structure. The whole leadership of Reform is very unusual in British politics

They could but it would be challenged in the UK Supreme Court.

Plus it would be further ammunition for Reform UK on the door step and on social media.

[conduirez]

I wonder if Parliament will put forward a change in law with relation to party structure. The whole leadership of Reform is very unusual in British politics

They could but it would be challenged in the UK Supreme Court.

Plus it would be further ammunition for Reform UK on the door step and on social media.

Agreed Archery.

Any Government who want changes to the law, to implement changes in party structures will find it nigh impossible to pull off in a single parliament. It will be filibustered to death and returned consistently from the House of Lords with amendments and Reform in the mean time will just adapt. A complete waste of parliamentary time and an expensive endeavor.

Labour, also would not like it if there was retaliation later if, Reform later won an election or merged with the conservatives and the law was changed so every Union member had to be balloted to see if they wanted their Union to be able to donate funds to Labour, and the pass mark was 75%.

Law changing for political gain is a dangerous pastime.

[Archery1969]

Labour can’t possibly win the next UK GE.

- 90% of their policies won’t come to fruition within a single parliament.
- The private sector electorate won’t wait past short term or a single parliament.
- Labour need to further raise taxes.
- Labour will annoy allot of rural electorate with wind farms and housing.
- Labour will always support public sector wage demands and employment rights.
- The public sector does not directly create income to the treasury.
- Companies and countries are not going to invest in a country whereby employees and unions call the shots.
- The UK electorate is becoming too old to work and sustain future demands on the public purse.
- The welfare and long term sickness bill is out of control.
- The NHS reforms won’t see benefits until 2030.
- The world is forever becoming more dangerous but the UK can’t afford to invest money it doesn’t have in the military.

Given all the above and someone’s is about to handover allot of money to Labours counterparts, doesn’t bode well for those currently in power.

Finally, the UK electorate has always been fickle. If Labour lose 7% voting points next time around then it could well be a hung parliament at best.

[sionascaig]

Some interesting stuff here:

https://theconversation.com/is-reform-r ... ead-245794

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[Archery1969]

Some interesting stuff here:

https://theconversation.com/is-reform-r ... ead-245794

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Farage is in Florida meeting with Musk. There are rumours that Reform UK will get access to Musks AI electoral algorithm software plus $500 million for targeting local and GE.

The above is not illegal as long as it’s declared.

I can’t see Labour or anyone other political party being able to compete with that.

[Vaz0202]

I would feel much better if I knew the tories had a capable leader to ‘snatch’ the right wing vote but they don’t. Kemi B is an absolute dream to both the Lib Dem’s and Reform.

If this Musk money comes through, it might be curtains for the Tories and labour would have to do something pretty bold (closer ties to the EU)


What sort of policies do you think a Farage government would implement?

[Archery1969]

I would feel much better if I knew the tories had a capable leader to ‘snatch’ the right wing vote but they don’t. Kemi B is an absolute dream to both the Lib Dem’s and Reform.

If this Musk money comes through, it might be curtains for the Tories and labour would have to do something pretty bold (closer ties to the EU)


What sort of policies do you think a Farage government would implement?

Closer ties to the EU is never going to happen.

Countries in the EU are moving further to the right.

The above is not in Labours doctrine to support.

Trump is going to punish the EU and indirectly the UK.

Farage, Musk and Trump will, via the back door shape UK politics and policy for the next few years to come.

[Vaz0202]

Peter Mandelson becomes top diplomat to the US. An appointment that Farage seems to be in favour of. A few weeks ago, Mandelson suggested Farage would have been a smart appointment to bridge the gap between the Atlantic.

Very interesting

[Michael5482]

Some interesting stuff here:

https://theconversation.com/is-reform-r ... ead-245794

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Suppose you have to ask when does a protest vote become a genuine vote? Reform are attracting massive money outside what you have seen in the news Sir john Hall (former Newcastle Utd owner) for example has joined Reform and pledged money (he's a former Tory donor). I think Reform are beyond a protest vote now they are big player no question about it.

I've already dutched Reform/Tory's should squeeze a bit out hopefully then have money to play with and move around as the political landscape changes.

[Euler]

Reform is almost certainly going to gain a lot of votes. Maybe think about a Reform / Conservative coalition.

One thing for sure is that Labour will be toast. A lot of seats are so marginal they are going to lose them.