TPD: Laying / Backing

[Safeway]

Hi Everybody
Obviously I know people don’t want to share their edge.

I just wondered if any TPD user might be willing to comment on success or otherwise of (1) backing and (2) laying.

I have played with TPD for almost a year now and my incompetence backing very late in the race is costing me all the profits made in laying. I double check the leader by ensuring that its position in the race is confirmed by a plummeting back price but too often the situation changes in the last few seconds of the race and my pick ends up second. It isn’t helpful that TPD so often shows my pick finishing in front but this issue has been discussed quite a lot on the forum.
I am considering using TPD for laying only but I’m certain I’m missing something.
Grateful for comments and not asking anybody to share their edge of course!

[lotora]

From my experience, the only reason I’m making money with TPD is by using full automation. Don’t stop backing—it can be very profitable if you get the automation right. For me, it took 13 months to get the automation really profitable, and I think I read that it took jamesedwards only 3 months. My point is that we’re all different, so it’s all about not giving up. If you use minimal stakes until you’ve figured it out, you’ll thank yourself later. Good luck!

[jamesedwards]

Hi Everybody
Obviously I know people don’t want to share their edge.

I just wondered if any TPD user might be willing to comment on success or otherwise of (1) backing and (2) laying.

I have played with TPD for almost a year now and my incompetence backing very late in the race is costing me all the profits made in laying. I double check the leader by ensuring that its position in the race is confirmed by a plummeting back price but too often the situation changes in the last few seconds of the race and my pick ends up second. It isn’t helpful that TPD so often shows my pick finishing in front but this issue has been discussed quite a lot on the forum.
I am considering using TPD for laying only but I’m certain I’m missing something.
Grateful for comments and not asking anybody to share their edge of course!

Golden rule with TPD, always assume the reported position of a horse could be a length out.

Therefore, backing on the line at 1.01... absolutely forget it.

Backing a closer at higher odds on the other hand...

[Fugazi]

all the profits made in laying.

[Safeway]

Thanks Iotora and James.

James - a few of those each day and you're laughing You can fund your bank from your loose change or your pocket money!

I know a lot more than £1.09 is put down but it doesn't really matter how much. Strike rate must be a big consideration. It's easy to have a high strike rate when laying but much more difficult when backing. The payoff can be much greater relative to the money at risk as you've shown! .

I think I have been obsessing with the 2 or 3 runners at the front when so often they can all be beaten by a late appearance from a hold up horse. Certainly seems that was the case with Our Lady Peace. Fantastic

[David121]

Hi Everybody
Obviously I know people don’t want to share their edge.

I just wondered if any TPD user might be willing to comment on success or otherwise of (1) backing and (2) laying.

I have played with TPD for almost a year now and my incompetence backing very late in the race is costing me all the profits made in laying. I double check the leader by ensuring that its position in the race is confirmed by a plummeting back price but too often the situation changes in the last few seconds of the race and my pick ends up second. It isn’t helpful that TPD so often shows my pick finishing in front but this issue has been discussed quite a lot on the forum.
I am considering using TPD for laying only but I’m certain I’m missing something.
Grateful for comments and not asking anybody to share their edge of course!

It sounds like you’ve already put in a lot of effort analyzing both backing and laying with TPD. Late-race backing can definitely be tricky, especially with the unpredictability in the final moments. If your laying strategy is consistently profitable but backing is wiping out those gains, it might make sense to refine or scale back the backing approach. Perhaps focusing on laying only for a while could help you build a more stable edge. Also, considering the slight lag or inconsistencies in TPD data, it might be worth testing alternative confirmation methods before entering a late back position. Have you experimented with different timing windows or additional filters to improve accuracy? For more details SPAM REMOVED & ACCOUNT DEACTIVATED

[Safeway]

Well I don't get this at all (LINK in above message)

[Fugazi]

Well I don't get this at all (LINK in above message)

Shit. looked through his posts and realised its AI, waiting for opportunity to subtly put a spam link in.


First time since we had the dial up modem sound since I fell for some spam / mistook someone for a genuine user.

[Euler]

Spammers are getting very clever recently.

We have removed the link and deactivated the account.

[natalieportman]

Have you tried using a stop loss or profit protection mechanism after reaching certain wins for the day/week? I'm wondering if the loss of profit from backing comes from trying to "chase" profits or simply because the TPD data is not stable enough at the end?

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[ShaunWhite]

Why did you hide this link in your reply with a 1pt font and white on white colour?

[Chessaholic]

Why did you hide this link in your reply with a 1pt font and white on white colour?

Bot I think, every post of theirs is gibberish. Reported

[jamesedwards]

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[Chessaholic]

Bots, bots as far as the eye can see!

Is the scam for SEO purposes? Because the chance of someone actually finding and clicking on their links is miniscule

[Euler]

Thanks for the report, this account has been deactivated. We had about 20 spam posts overnight.