Identifying the UK All Weather races

[routus2000]

Good morning all!

I'm a newbie to Bet Angel (since yesterday!), and am really enjoying exploring the software. I managed to implement one of my basic strategies after a couple of hours messing about with Guardian, but since then I've spent several hours trying to identify and (in this case) stop the automation loading All Weather races. This is a UK strategy, but I can't simply stop it loading the courses by name as some of them have more than one track.

I have my strategy only selecting Handicap races, and have a few other criteria working as well, and I tried the NOT approach; I suspect that I am using either the wrong angle of attack or the wrong code. Can someone please advise me, of the correct way to identify and eliminate JUST the All Weather races - I already have it loading the UK races and applying other filters, like Handicaps only, number of runners etc., but this has me stumped!

I would appreciate any help any of you are able to give, but ideally if you are able to give me a line of code and tell me where to put it (politely please, I'm a newbie ), that would be fantastic.

Thanks in anticipation

[Euler]

Kempton, Lingfield, Newcastle, Wolverhampton, Great Leighs, Southwell are all AW courses when run over the Flat distances.

[jamesedwards]

Also Dundalk in Ireland is AW.

Kempton, Lingfield, Newcastle, and Southwell also run NH races on turf. Lingfield is the only track that runs flat races on both turf and AW.

[Euler]

I tend to use if AW track and distance <=2m then assume AW. Not perfect, but mainly gets the job done.

[routus2000]

Thanks for the replies folks.

I know the course names (Great Leighs is no more, it is now Chelmsford City), my problem is that I have a handicap system which covers both Flat and NH races, so simply removing the course names (with the exception Chelmsford) would remove some significant racing (e.g. Kempton on Boxing Day).

Does anyone know if removing the surface type (Polytrack? Tapeta? Fibresand?) and / or the ground condition (Standard, Slow, Fast) would be a workable solution and, if it is, how would I implement it?

On the subject of going, or ground condition, I also want to remove races on heavy ground.

Cheers

[routus2000]

I tend to use if AW track and distance <=2m then assume AW. Not perfect, but mainly gets the job done.

That suggests that simply using NOT AW might be a possibility, I will have a look at that and NOT (AW) when I can get a few minutes free; although I thought I had tried them already

[Euler]

When I say AW, I'm searching and using text for the actual tracks. Hope that is clear?

[jamesedwards]

You can use nested conditions so that it ignores races where the racecourse is X, Y, or Z, AND the race distance is <=2m.

[routus2000]

Okay, so asking BA's own AI the question in different ways, here is the response:

"To refine your search to remove UK All Weather races while keeping only handicap races, you can combine your existing search term with additional 'NOT' terms. Assuming you have identified the specific terms Betfair uses for All Weather races, you can structure your search string as follows:

Hcap AND NOT [All Weather Term 1] AND NOT [All Weather Term 2]

Replace [All Weather Term 1] and [All Weather Term 2] with the actual terms Betfair uses to denote All Weather races. This will ensure that your search results include only handicap races and exclude any that are All Weather."

And this is what I have found:

Standard

Standard to slow

Standard to fast

Slow

Fast

So my plan is to use this format along with those terms (and add in Heavy)

Hopefully this will help someone else too

[routus2000]

Thanks again for your responses.

Ignore my last post .... it doesn't work

I have to say that I'm disappointed that neither All Weather or "Going" can be filtered effectively; when I want to build my AW only strategy, it looks like that will be a hell of a lot of effort, if it's even possible.

With so much all weather racing now, surely there's a simple way to implement this effectively?

[jamesedwards]

Try this (not tested).

The condition means a rule will only trigger if:
[the race is a handicap]
AND
([the racecourse is not one of the list above], OR [the race distance is >2m])..

Only issues would be Lingfield flat races on the turf, and occasional NH race running at 2m at those tracks might be excluded.

aw and hcap.baf

[routus2000]

Try this (not tested).

The condition means a rule will only trigger if the racecourse is [not one of the list above], OR [the race distance is >2m].

Only issues would be Lingfield flat races on the turf, and occasional NH race running at 2m at those tracks might be excluded.


aw and hcap.baf

Thank you for your time and effort, I really appreciate it!

[Dublin_Flyer]

Along with jamesedwards baf you could include in the exclusions of named tracks that the Market Name does not contain Chs, Hrd, NHF just to be sure to be sure.
Could be worth excluding the rare races confined to Arab, and Charity too. As far as I know they're standard weight so non hcap but you can never be too sure.

Surely I've said the word sure too much in this post.

Yes I have, and don't call me Shirley

[routus2000]

Along with jamesedwards baf you could include in the exclusions of named tracks that the Market Name does not contain Chs, Hrd, NHF just to be sure to be sure.
Could be worth excluding the rare races confined to Arab, and Charity too. As far as I know they're standard weight so non hcap but you can never be too sure.

Surely I've said the word sure too much in this post.

Yes I have, and don't call me Shirley

Thanks for your input, I had already added the NH race types ..... to be sure Shirley

[DanTheMan1]

Thanks again for your responses.

Ignore my last post .... it doesn't work

I have to say that I'm disappointed that neither All Weather or "Going" can be filtered effectively; when I want to build my AW only strategy, it looks like that will be a hell of a lot of effort, if it's even possible.

With so much all weather racing now, surely there's a simple way to implement this effectively?

Import it in as a stored value