Process of finding automation that works

[steevjp]

I wonder if anyone actually has any consistent success with automation and Bet Angel? Ive tried a number of things, mainly on the horses but also the odd football thing too, backing, laying, greening up, fixed price, liability, dobbing, backing and laying favourites, plus various others. I tend the steer clear of the trading ladders and just stick with automation.

Some fail completely straight away, some seem to work for a few days then and fail consistently? I am trying with very small amounts so it isn’t costing me an arm and a leg, but it is causing some frustration. I feel that i am running out of ideas on what to try.

I am going to give myself until the subscription expires to see if I can crack it, I am not looking for £1000 a day just something that wins more than it loses (the holy grail I guess lol).

But I think I need to get back to basics.

Can anyone advise on what I should look at first when trying to automate something? Is there a workflow or a set of stages that need to be done in order in the quest of finding something that works.

Or is it a case of you have an idea in a market and you look at what bet angel can do in order to validate that idea, or show you that it doesn’t work then try the next idea? or something else entirely.

[jamesedwards]

To win consistently you need an edge over the market. A reason to expect a positive expected value (+EV) return in the long term. Not only that, but the +EV needs to be big enough to cover any spread and commission. Examples of an edge could include; inside info, faster info, specialist knowledge, better pictures, faster pictures, superior market reading skills, superior tools/software.

You are very unlikely to stumble across something that beats commission just by playing with entering and exiting at different prices.

Ask yourself, how can you find and edge, and how can you use Bet Angel to leverage it?

[Alpha322]

I wonder if anyone actually has any consistent success with automation and Bet Angel? Ive tried a number of things, mainly on the horses but also the odd football thing too, backing, laying, greening up, fixed price, liability, dobbing, backing and laying favourites, plus various others. I tend the steer clear of the trading ladders and just stick with automation.

Some fail completely straight away, some seem to work for a few days then and fail consistently? I am trying with very small amounts so it isn’t costing me an arm and a leg, but it is causing some frustration. I feel that i am running out of ideas on what to try.

I am going to give myself until the subscription expires to see if I can crack it, I am not looking for £1000 a day just something that wins more than it loses (the holy grail I guess lol).

But I think I need to get back to basics.

Can anyone advise on what I should look at first when trying to automate something? Is there a workflow or a set of stages that need to be done in order in the quest of finding something that works.

Or is it a case of you have an idea in a market and you look at what bet angel can do in order to validate that idea, or show you that it doesn’t work then try the next idea? or something else entirely.

I say Have a Edge , Learn how to read the market (Charts are amazing for this) and master the orderflow on the Ladder, we all been through what you are going through, just over 12 years me it made sence and became profitable after 7

[steevjp]

Thanks James, I guess with betangel I have the superior tools/software and faster info, I am not seasoned in the art of betfair (or similar) so posses none of the other traits currently, I will certainly think on this though to see if indeed I can find or think of a potential edge with my knowledge. Thanks for replying.

[steevjp]

I wonder if anyone actually has any consistent success with automation and Bet Angel? Ive tried a number of things, mainly on the horses but also the odd football thing too, backing, laying, greening up, fixed price, liability, dobbing, backing and laying favourites, plus various others. I tend the steer clear of the trading ladders and just stick with automation.

Some fail completely straight away, some seem to work for a few days then and fail consistently? I am trying with very small amounts so it isn’t costing me an arm and a leg, but it is causing some frustration. I feel that i am running out of ideas on what to try.

I am going to give myself until the subscription expires to see if I can crack it, I am not looking for £1000 a day just something that wins more than it loses (the holy grail I guess lol).

But I think I need to get back to basics.

Can anyone advise on what I should look at first when trying to automate something? Is there a workflow or a set of stages that need to be done in order in the quest of finding something that works.

Or is it a case of you have an idea in a market and you look at what bet angel can do in order to validate that idea, or show you that it doesn’t work then try the next idea? or something else entirely.

I say Have a Edge , Learn how to read the market (Charts are amazing for this) and master the orderflow on the Ladder, we all been through what you are going through, just over 12 years me it made sence and became profitable after 7

So you was using it for 5 years before you "sussed" it? that is a long time. I have watched some of the youtube videos on the trading side, with the ladder, its lost on me, seems very complicated which is why ive tried to stick with the automation (not that i dont find that complicated either) but in my head a rule is (maybe) easier to create. Glad yu are profitable though. that is the end goal.